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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can we talk about how the Defiant's phasers are variably peashooters or golden guns for the sake of the plot?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is kinda funny how night and day they are.

insert soydoge/stronkdoge meme here

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 15 points 6 months ago

They were either the most powerful weapon in Star Trek history, able to destroy multiple enemy ships with a single burst, or they were basically a laser pointer. There never seemed to be any middle ground.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't have to go home though, right? Let's stay up and discuss Klingon stealth tech.

[–] Batman@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

It's dishonorable!

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just like the new BSG’s battle scenes.

Man those were great and my favorite is the jump and dive into New Caprica’s atmosphere. Then jumping out when the vipers launched.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That scene made my spine tingle, I jumped out of my chair punched the air and shouted “Yessssssssssssssss”

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For those who plan on watching the show save it for that.

But if you need some convincing this should do it

https://youtu.be/avYfqjzCfPE?t=5m

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At this point in the series, humanity has been through some shit and ship and crew have been pummelled relentlessly. They had every right to abandon the people there on that planet to their chosen fate. The crew could have taken the ship and gotten away.. but the old girl still had some fracking fight left in her

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m still surprised she could fly after that. And yet Adama’s cool as a cucumber (at least outwardly)

Edward James Olmos is a phenomenal actor

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Adama didn't hear no bell

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that did it, I’m in

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s several seasons in but there are plenty of other battles… but also mystery and intrigue. And like DS9 it deals with a lot more gray area than other sci-fi shows of the time did.

The show has variety and great pacing overall except maybe the miniseries which can be a slow build since they’re so long. Which makes sense since they’re, in essence, a pilot building up for the show.

They’re great too. But man after that the first episode 33 just dives right in.

I love how the number of humanity’s survivors in the show intro updates throughout the show. The detail is a nice touch.

[–] mynachmadarch@kbin.social 18 points 6 months ago

Wait why am I going home? You're giving me all that foreplay and then not actually playing Star Trek: Attack Wing or something with me? :(

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eh, in the movies you’re allowed to handwave and technobabble more stuff so it’s fine

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's a fun idea to play with... but I feel like making that idea canon undercuts a lot of the optimism that's foundational to the series.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While initially moth-balled due to diminished Borg presence (pre First Contact), the Defiant project spearheaded by Sisko was a much earlier jump toward militaristic thinking within Starfleet's leadership. The appearance of the Dominion, of course, ratcheted up that mindset. Picard's ardent claim that the main function of the Federation was exploration/peace was hardly reflected by its actions in that time period. Borg, Breen, and badmirals set a dark path going forward for a while.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Picard’s ardent claim that the main function of the Federation was exploration/peace was hardly reflected by its actions in that time period. Borg, Breen, and badmirals set a dark path going forward for a while.

The main function of the Federation is to explore and expand equality among its members during peace times, defend itself when other threaten to prevent this, and with the guiding hand of Section 31, do more of the former than the latter.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Makes me wonder if we'll see Section 31 intervening in the background of some established canon events in the upcoming movie.

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They could do a whole series set after DS9 about these types of questions. Maybe something that alludes to questions around Russia and China but still aims for peaceful outcomes?

... mixing in philosophy sci-fi questions?

.... You know the sort of stuff Gene Roddenberry was doing from the beginning?

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The most unbelievable part of Star Trek combat of any kind was The Red Shirt effect.

In real combat, death doesn’t discriminate. Anyone who steps into battle tends to have a roughly even chance of dying. So when DS9 got invaded or the Defiant took a pounding, we should nearly always see one or more primary characters biting the dust.

And while that did happen at times, like with Jadzia Dax, it didn’t happen nearly as often as it should have.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

People would be transferring to other ships, retiring, and so on, too.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Man, if I were there, all I would say to this guy is "Eat me!" Sheesh... some geeks.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

MY BODY IS READY