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Spez is doubling down. He's shown his hand. He's lied. It's like watching Anakin's descent to the dark side. He's too far gone.
I don't really think there is a going back. The watering hole is poisoned. There's no more good faith. And, I think for a lot people, especially people here, it's a matter of principle at this point.
I might check in on certain niche subs that don't move on to other platforms, but the days of gleefully doomsctolling are over.
IMO the response was even worse than the initial change. That is what put it over for me.
Hell no.
My issues with Reddit boil down to three: the admins, the mods, and the users. (Note: this is coming from a former Reddit user and mod.) Even if the admins turn 180Β°, the other two issues remain.
I was on Reddit 15 years and recently have been considering getting off the platform for other various reasons. All of the recent developments were just the final thing to push me to actually leave.
This was me, too. I was actively looking for alternatives already, this whole debacle just provided enough of a community on those alternatives for it to feel like a worthy time to switch. There's nothing that will get me to go back at this point.
Same, but 14 years. Had followed mastodon some and read up on activity pub, but meanwhile I never used Twitter and liked how reddit reminded me of forums and bbs/usenet/email listservs before that.
I definitely see how lemmy is rough around the edges, and I'm sure that will cause issues with any sort of mass long term reddit exodus, but personally I'm loving the experience, the dev community, the underlying philosophy, etc. & at least for the communities I've been following that decently high barrier to entry has uplifted most of the discussion (albeit while kneecapping niche or local or whatever discussion entirely because there isn't a community for it)
Fuck spez. Even if they reversed their decision, they have made it very clear how much they will take control if they don't get their way. They have repeatedly mistreated the mods, devs, and community. They slandered a man with lies that could end his career because of why? To gain social points?
Spez has shown what reddit really is and I am done
I don't plan on going back to Reddit in a major way. After giving Reddit up, I find myself thinking over my experience on that site for the last few years. Engaging commentary was harder and harder to find, particularly in any sub of sufficient size, and I spent a lot of my scrolling through Reddit angry. Leaving Reddit has been a wake up call for me. It's a rat race on Reddit, and I don't need that in my life anymore.
I think reddit model should be as a non profit org., something like wikipedia. No ads, no selling or trying to monetize user data, or being hostage to its investors whims. That would require a complete change of management. Only then I would think about going back.
Nope, I've already deleted all of my comments and posts on a 10+ year old account. They can go straight to hell. Fuck them.
sadly... yes. I'm just not finding the community here that I built up there over 11 years. I know, I know, give this 11 years and we'll get there, too... but it's still over there.
I did the whole "delete all comments and posts and replace with the API reasoning text" thing, for my main and my few alts. BUt I find I still am heading over there on browser through old.reddit and lurking.
Reddit is no longer showing on my computer. Something about /etc/hosts. Canβt imagine how that happened.
I installed a Firefox extension that redirects any reddit.com link to my Lemmy instance.
Definitely not. Even if I get luke-warm on lemmy, Huffman has shown a complete disregard to the community and has completely pivoted to building the business. As soon as they introduced New reddit and bought AlienBlue, the writing was already on the wall.
I'm not sure if lemmy/the fediverse has the legs to keep the community going indefinitely (i was around when Voat was absorbing the last reddit exodus, i'm hoping lemmy has more legs than that), but I think i'm done with these for-profit social media sites. Youtube is the last one (for me) that hasn't burned that bridge, but I'm not a contributor there anyway. For being a link-aggregation website though, I feel like federations are a perfect fit.
I'm old enough now that I can see myself not using social media at all.... Jesus how did I get so old. Time to go buy a Miata and some aviators.
I remember the Voat semi-exodus, but as I recall that was all the communities that got banned. Voat turned into a cesspool real quick
Up until 3rd party app devs announced they're converting their apps to Lemmy? Yes.
Now, absolutely the fuck not. Reddit is a cesspool compared to when I first joined in 2013. Lemmy feels a lot more like reddit did then. It's quaint and cozy here. Yes I'd like to see this place grow some more. But 1/10th the size of reddit would be plenty. Most reddit users don't contribute anything useful anyways so no loss there.
No.
Way too much trust has been lost for me to even consider going back to that place.
Even if they completely remove and ban Steve Huffman and his family, fiends or even acquaintances from any and all company and/or subcontracted positions, completely overhaul all their positions and replace them with trustworthy people (sucks to be them, but they know what they're getting into), add all the requested features overnight including and especially the accessibility features... I still won't consider going back to them.
They will need to exert a huge amount good faith effort over a span of a decade to earn back my trust, if they're at all capable of doing things in good faith.
I'm done. I moderated a very small, niche hobby sub for a bit over three years. The size and niche-ness kept it fairly well insulated from the worst online behaviors, but it's been shifting this year. I have been seeing more and more users posting to the sub for the first time, simply pushing their content creator/influencer material on Insta and Youtube. Their posts are only vaguely related to the sub topic, and they never stick around to have meaningful conversations in the comments of their posts. When they violate the sub rules, I have a policy of warning once and removing only if they don't respond within 24 hours. But even with a 24 hour warning, people get NASTY.
I modded the community for the benefit of others. With the shift in sub demographics and reddit sweeping my legs out from under me in terms of mod tools that allow me to keep control of the sub, I'm done. I can't keep it shaped into the community the original members want. They're frustrated. I'm frustrated. It's no longer fun or fulfilling. Someone who wants to keep the sub aligned with the wants of the new content creator/influencer demographics are welcome to it. Personally, I think a sub of people advertising their channels elsewhere is worthless.
Not planning to return. Lemmy feels good to me. Happy to be here.
Nope. It's far too US-centric, both in content and cultural norms enforced by censorship. What's really great about the fediverse is to be able to find not just niche content about "the outside world" but communities literally run under different cultural norms.
Only if Spez leaves and is replaced by a decent CEO who reverses EVERYTHING that Spez has effed up in the past few years. I'd return for some small niche communities I participate on that aren't present in the lemmy-verse (yet). But I'd stay here too. I am committed to Federated services now.
Most responses I've seen have centered on spez's actions, but I have a bigger reason for saying no.
Ever since the Conde Nasty days Reddit has gone in a direction that would be abhorrent to Aaron Schwarz. For this who aren't aware, Aaron was one of the original designers and developers of Reddit.
Anyway, I feel that reddit is now something of an insult to Aaron's legacy. Spez has made it worse by pissing on his grave.
I'm keeping my account live so that I can still interact and ask questions in threads when I get taken there by search results. Reddit ultimately shows up a lot when looking for solutions to technical problems.
As far as browsing and contributing, I think I'm sticking with Lemmy. Things are just starting to get good.
Nope. Not a chance. I have no love for giant corporations, and Reddit has always been particularly shit even by that standard. Say what you want about the evils of Meta / Google / Apple, ETC ETC ETC, but at least they generally try to keep their users happy, or at least using their platforms. Reddit just seem to have absolutely no idea what their users want half the time, Reddit premium anyone? The way they handled, or rather failed to handle, the accessibility issue also leaves a rather bitter taste in my mouth.
https://static.xtremeownage.com/blog/2023/what-happened-to-reddit/
100% fuck u/spez.
They have messed up pretty badly, and anyone who still trusts them, is wearing a blindfold.
I will never willingly provide free labour in the form of commenting, interacting, and posting on a site that not only exploits my work for profit, but insults me and is run by a pathological liar and malignant narcissist. So no.
I donβt think I will. Iβm not fully moved over - Iβll use Apollo and if/whenthat goes away, then Iβm done with Reddit. Iβm having a harder time navigating lemmy and getting used to the concept, but itβs also kinda exciting. I remember joining Reddit in β09 and it was a similar feel, but this is better. So I think under most circumstances, unless they like get rid of apex and make some serious amends to some others, I wonβt go back.
This is the most degen reason to give, but the likelihood is I would go back. Lemmy is solid though there's a couple of things that make me wonder if it's worth fully commiting.
a) Userbase. If reddit went back, subreddits would likely reopen, change their rules back to how they were before, and therefore the numbers would follow.
b) Centralised. I know this one will piss people off, but the fragmentation of lemmy is a bit too much. I have the option to put all my trust into a single account on one instance and subscribe fedarated if instances support it, or I can create 20 different accounts across different instances.
c) Retention of userstats. While I've not got rediculous amounts of karma like some people do, I have a a little bit, and rebuilding that is a bit ass.
I agree with most of what you're saying, except for karma. Who gives a fuck
Isn't karma just like an anti-spam mechanism that barely works?
And you get karma just by posting whatever the community wants to hear. So it's not like it shows how enlightened you are or anything.
Anyway, one thing that bothered me about Reddit's karma system, is that people would delete their comments if they got a few downvotes, even if they had something important to say.
Here on Lemmy, you can quickly see both upvotes and downvotes. So if someone says something controversial due to politics or whatever, they're less likely to delete their comment because they can see "ahh, I'm not just being mercilessly attacked, 50 people upvoted me."
That can be abused I guess, but I like that it promotes discussion that isn't just echo-chamber nonsense. We'll just have to see how it works in practice.
Nope, my account is gone and so are my comments.
I'm done with reddit.
Either Lemmy takes off, or I may start reading more in my free time...
No. I like it much better here
Nope, the wells been poisoned. Even if they did a full 180 and Fired Spez for good measure, they've shown their hand. How long before they do it again? Even if all of this was %100 Spezs idea and everyone else in the company opposed it, could we really trust the replacement to never try this or anything similar again? How long before the next CEO decides to try again? What Reddit as a company has proven is that they can't be trusted, and what we as a community have proved with switching over to Kbin and Lemmy is that we don't need Reddit. We can make the same content and have the same or in some cases better communities and the beauty of doing it on a platform like this? A greedy corporation can't destroy it again. Even if a major instance owner goes rogue, we pick up move to another instance and keep going no need to learn a new site no need to rebuild communities. A simple "I'm moving over to this instance!" And that's it
No. It would be different if they just killed third party apps (with appropriate notice) and like, I would be upset, since Apollo is genuinely one of the best pieces of software I've ever used, but I would just use old Reddit on my phone like I do with my computer, and it would be fine. But the outright hostility spez has shown for users means I will never post there again, and I'm signed out unless I need to find something on my account. The final straw was spez's response to the blackouts, which I would summarize as "Once they get over their little temper tantrum, they'll come crawling back to us." It was condescending, insulting, and frankly infuriating. He can't even pay lip service to the most dedicated members of the site, so god knows what he's saying in private. Why on earth should we spend any time on a site who's leadership so clearly despises us?
I'm not sure. I think I want to stay here.
I wasn't on Reddit in the first place, so my opinion's not really relevant here, but I really enjoy the communities that have formed on Lemmy, so I do hope people stay around. I really strongly believe in the federation of networks over the centralization around capital.
I'd probably go to my hobby subreddits and ignore /all
And then i'd also check the fediverse's site to see if they have anything different.
I'd imagine the content would grow more and more over time until either things went back to the way they were or reddit no longer had anything worth visiting for.
Not me. For me it's half a matter of principle, but I'm also liking the fact that I don't waste as much time doomscrolling
If RIF survives or returns, then I will probably go back to reddit occasionally. But I haven't missed it since the blackout, so I will probably only use it for a reference and not a community to comment in.
If Kbin and Lemmy keep being this active I'm sticking around here. I'm really enjoying it at this level. More so than Reddit. But if this place dies AND Reddit is less scummy for a while, I might go back.
No. Reddit has shown it's not what I signed up for. I learn my lession, goodbye reddit
No. I'll use RSS to lurk on subs that don't move, but this more and fragmentation has pushed me to finally try and curb my endless scrolling habits (by utilising IRC, I now only go through small bytes of content, and if I don't feel like it is important, I don't waste any more time).
No, I won't return.
This whole episode taught me the importance of diversifying the online communities/platforms that I use, and how NOT to rely on a single platform controlled by a for-profit entity.
From now on, it's communities based on open platforms first for me, and proprietary ones the distance second and only if I really can't avoid it.
Nope, being an open source and privacy zealot I wanted to switch to Lemmy well before anyone cared about it. But I deleted my account because it had like twenty active people on it at most. Now that it's gaining users I'm definitely staying. I wasn't very active on Reddit for quite a while anyway, discussion grew repetitive.
Yes, but only to the more niche subs. I've really missed some of them, lime r/stunfisk or r/mapporncirclejerk. I'll stay away from the mainstream subs; I've had enough of the toxicity.
No ofc not xd