Absolutely ridiculous that it took this long for them to tell us what they are selling.
this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2024
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GIGA huge MASSIVE!!!!!! (30MBPS)
And the tiny text that reads "*30mpbs downlink speed, 5mpbs uplink speed. Studies from the 90s have shown morons like you don't need useful upload speeds lmao"
Studies from the 90s have shown morons like you don’t need useful upload speeds lmao”
More like "we want you to consoom product and only consoom product. If you want to produce something and host it, we will charge you out the ass for it 'cause obviously that's only a thing profit-seeking businesses do. Wait, you say you want to host your personal passion project as a hobby -- what are you, some sort of motherfucking commie scum??"
I'm already a bit mad about 50mbps up on a gigabit down line
Up to. Actual speeds may vary by time of day, over subscription, lobbying, and the your local consumer protection regulations.
Blazing fast (compared to throwing your computer into mud pit)
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Data caps in 2024.. first world country.. allegedly.
first world country
That just means NATO, not high on the human development index.
Actually, the US was downgraded to “developing nation” for lack of nationwide accessible healthcare in 2017.
See, now that terminology works much better! The counterpart to it is "developed" not "first world," though.
Examples:
- "Switzerland is a developed, third world country."
- "The US is a developing, first world country."
(Disclaimer: I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with folks' assessment of the US, just discussing categories.)
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Not in my area. Our local ISPs are great, I have 2 options for fiber at affordable prices, with no data caps. Fuck comcast and AT&T - it's the biggest ISPs that push bullshit like that on the public.
“Today’s nationwide launch of the Broadband Consumer Labels means internet service providers are now required to display consumer-friendly labels at the point of sale,” the Federal Communications Commission said. “Labels are required for all standalone home or fixed Internet service or mobile broadband plans. Providers must display the label—not simply an icon or link to the label—in close proximity to an associated plan’s advertisement.”
The labels are required now for providers with at least 100,000 subscribers, while ISPs with fewer customers have until October 10, 2024, to comply. “If a provider is not displaying their labels or has posted inaccurate information about its fees or service plans, consumers can file a complaint with the FCC Consumer Complaint Center,” an agency webpage says.
Because of course the FCC has a CCC
the FCCCCC, even.
Helpful quote though, thanks.
The democrats just got majority of the FCC in October. They passed this, and are almost ready to reenact Net Neutrality, despite Carr’s stalling tactics.
I mean this is nice and all but for it to matter I would need to have options available.
My power company installed fiber on the power lines and started their own ISP. So my co-op is my ISP. Kinda nice
You should call yours and find out if they have any plans for it.
Yea same here. I actually moved to a new area of the country in part to have access to quality municipal fiber.
Comcast raised my rate my 30% a few weeks ago and I went on a rage filled search for a replacement. The only other providers are either barely usable or starlink.
Call up, say you want to cancel, because you found a deal with another internet provider for whatever low price you paying originally. After they confirm you're "sure you want to leave" they'll offer you the reduced rate in return for you staying on with them. I've done it a couple times now, cuts my internet bill in half for like a year
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I was in a neighborhood where we had FOUR competitors, all giving reasonable pricing. I immediately went to customer service and told them I'm switching, and they magically found a way to keep me happy.
I am now in a neighborhood with only Comcast cable and Verizon DSL. The pricing is $40 vs $120 for basic speed. The competition when there's only two carriers is a lie.
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This is some bullshit if this is in compliance. I had to enter my address for the quote, still doesn't show what the fucking taxes are, or real price.
Edit: Not in compliance "The labels must include any additional monthly charges, one-time fees, early termination fees, and taxes." filed fcc complaint. Fuck Comcast.
“Comcast and other ISPs complained that listing every monthly fee would be too difficult”
This is very hard to reach compliance, but you’re not smart enough to understand why.
sometimes asking a computer to add and multiply numbers is just too hard
They can sure figure it out to bill me. But monitoring my data usage was too hard, so I switched providers. Lucky me, I have exactly one other to choose from, but at least they don't have caps.
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So we get to clearly see how shitty our only ISP option is.
Lol, all of Spectrum's plans (outside gig) say "Typical Upload: 10Mbs or higher"
Why is it so hard for ISPs to provide a higher upload speed
Balancing, customer needs, limitation of hardware/infrastructure. Copper doesn't handle symmetrical download and upload as well (this is where fiber comes in). There can be too much noise resulting in degraded consistency. Its prone to interference and leaks. To improve reliability, you get asymmetrical plans. Most people just want download. Which has historically been the cheaper choice. An example local to my area, a home plan will be 800 down and 20 up. A business plan will be 500 down and 300 up. The business plan costs more.
Yeah, but nowadays with self hosting, cloud synced apps, peer to peer game matchmaking, and working from home... Cable is practically useless, yet still the only option in some places.
I switched to 5G. Get the same download and was more upload for less money. Latency is a little lame sometimes. It's not terrific for online gaming. But it's better for everything else.
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Sonic internet provides 10Gb up and down. I have no idea how they do it, but I love them.
Yeah I get 370 mbps down but only 10 mbps up why can't I at least have around 50 up? Is it really that hard or just capitalism? lol
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What country? Anyway, good, good.
EDIT: ah, USA. Fix your ISPs already.
Saying things like "up to 25 Mbps" is well and good, but it doesn't fix the problem that ISPs don't invest in ensuring the availability of sufficient network bandwidth for speeds to actually be what is promised, and doesn't fix the problem that the definition of bandwidth should be well beyond 25 Mbps by this point, with a minimum upload speed of far beyond the laughable 3 Mbps minimum.
Yeah, definitions need to be updated to reflect modern standards. As it is currently, “broadband” is a very outdated term, with 100/20 DSL still included under the broadband umbrella. But many people would agree that 100Mbps DSL is far too slow to count as modern broadband, and companies shouldn’t be able to market it as such.
There are also big issues with companies marketing “fiber” service, but it’s really just a fiber trunk line to the neighborhood, with copper for the last quarter mile to each individual home. It means customers don’t get a true fiber experience, (like symmetrical up/down speeds) because they’re still bottlenecked by the copper run. It also means they still have issues with things like massive throttling during peak hours, because the aging copper infrastructure can’t support modern needs.
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You mean they didn't have to tell you price and speed already? Ffs! 🤦
They had to give you a price and a speed, but often that price gets jacked way up with hidden fees, and the speeds they provide are usually just speeds you could get during off peak hours.
Now all we have to do is get ISPs to define what they consider a data cap.
Every single ISP has unlimited Internet as long as you don't exceed a certain amount of data and then you get 56k speeds.
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Google has its issues as a company, but I’m pretty happy with symmetrical gigabit for $70.70 a month. I’m pretty sure 2 gigabit, and possibly 5, are also available at my location, but I’d have to upgrade all my network stuff to use that.
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Wait, wasn't always like this? Also data caps? Is this talking about mobile or wifi internet?
Yeah, but now if they provide inaccurate info, you can report them for it. Also, they have to provide it in an easy to understand format.
Cable companies need to be forced to provide alternative last mile providers, just like DSL is for telcos. There's no reason PPPoE can not work in cable network infrastructure.
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