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[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

During the Reddit blackout I decided that I wanted to move away from Reddit to a FOSS alternative. At the time I was a bit of an anarcho-Bidenist, so I considered joining Raddle. I never made an account there, but it was still enough to give me a bad impression of Dessalines just from the things about him that Raddle users posted.

Ultimately I decided against joining Raddle in favor of joining the fediverse, simply because I knew that a centralized platform was doomed to fail. And I'd wanted to join the fediverse for a long time anyways, so I figured that the Reddit Blackout was a good opportunity to make the jump and hopefully take a few others with me. Because I'd branded Dessalines as a "tankie" and that tainted Lemmy as a whole for me, I decided to create an account on Kbin Social, and I sang the praises of how with just one account I could access content across a huge federated network. I wasn't completely comfortable with Kbin Social because it had that "random threads" section and was kinda buggy, and I didn't like how Kbin Social relied so much on Lemmy for content, but I nevertheless understood Kbin Social as my best bet for an "as-un-tankie-as-possible" Reddit alternative with lasting potential.

I soon ended up creating a Blåhaj Lemmy account, mainly so that I could federate my Kbin magazines on the biggest trans-centric threadiverse instance, as well as get experience with using Lemmy, and also because Kbin Social was unstable and so I could just browse Blåhaj Lemmy whenever Kbin Social was down. So I could still talk about the "one account for the whole fediverse" thing, just that you might need multiple accounts if your main instance is a bit unstable.

However, it quickly became evident that Kbin Social was incapable of moderating against transphobia, and I wasn't gonna be one of those losers who just used the fediverse for a short while before going back to Reddit. Not wanting to create more fediverse accounts than I strictly needed, I decided to migrate to Blåhaj Lemmy instead of creating an account on a different Kbin instance. This made Kbin Social my backup instance. I thought, "Sure, Lemmy's developed by a tankie, but it's FOSS, the Blåhaj Lemmy staff can always just fork it if they really don't like what Dessalines is doing, it's not like the developer actually taints the whole platform, that was very silly of me to think that."

And then Blåhaj Lemmy started federating with Hexbear. I quickly fell in love with the Hexbears' culture, I loved their trans spaces, and I found that despite what others on Blåhaj Lemmy had said about these "savage brigaders" or whatever, that the Hexbears actually treated me very well. This was probably because I knew that people don't just form their worldviews out of thin air, and so I was coming at these discussions with an inquisitive perspective and an understanding that there was probably some sort of difference in knowledge or experience to account for these differing viewpoints.

When talks of Blåhaj Lemmy defederating from Hexbear started, I argued very firmly for continued federation with Hexbear despite other Blåhajs' protest, and this made me feel an even stronger relationship to Hexbear: before I'd just been an occasional guest, albeit one who'd made a fairly strong first impression; but now I was suddenly acting like an ambassador.

Eventually Hexbear defederated from Blåhaj Lemmy over issues with Blåhaj Lemmy's handling of chasers and ableism. Blåhaj Lemmy was denied the satisfaction of defederating first, and I considered Hexbear's decision to defederate to have been very respectable. Because Hexbear had demonstrated that it had a high tolerance for anarchists; because I was increasingly fed up with the bad politics of Blåhaj Lemmy's admins, and their bad handling of the debacles that led Hexbear to defederate; and because Hexbear just had a lot of really great users and communities that I wanted to keep having access to; I decided to create a Hexbear account, and I downloaded Liftoff for Lemmy so that I could combine my feeds for both Hexbear and Blåhaj Lemmy. And so I gradually stopped using Kbin entirely, because if Hexbear was down I still had Blåhaj and vice versa.

When I joined Hexbear, I said, "I hope it'll take longer before I have to make an Erika4sis somewhere" — I was cautiously optimistic that I wouldn't be pushed by the circumstances to create any more fediverse accounts on any more instances.

When Liftoff stopped working, I started browsing Hexbear on its own website. Soon after that I pretty much stopped browsing Blåhaj Lemmy entirely, as I found that Blåhaj Lemmy's culture just wasn't doing it for me compared to the value I actually got out of its content. And so I had slowly transitioned over the course of several months from being a Kbin'er, to a Kbin'er who'd been pushed by the circumstances to create a Blåhaj account, to a Kbin-Blåhaj "dual citizen", to a full-fledged Blåhaj, to a Blåhaj who'd been pushed by the circumstances to create a Hexbear account, to a Blåhaj-Hexbear "dual citizen", to a full-fledged Hexbear. And likewise, while a big part of my initial draw to Hexbear had been its left-unity policy, I had nonetheless found myself increasingly abandoning anarchist ideas in favor of Marxist ones, the more time I spent on Hexbear. But I still told myself, "Three accounts. Three. Tops. We are not going to create a fourth fediverse account, that's just a waste. We are not going to do that. Never."

A few months ago I downloaded Dessalines' Thumb-Key because Messagease was enshittifying. A few weeks ago I updated my Hexbear user description to follow "anarchist" with "at least, I was when I got here". A few days ago I subscribed to Dessalines' YouTube channel where he shares cool audiobooks, and also a day or two ago someone described a Hexbear post I'd commented on as a part of the "Hexbear to Lemmygrad pipeline", to which I replied something like, "What do you mean?" but never got a response. When Hexbear's SSL certificate briefly expired a few days ago, I became used to checking Lemmygrad to see the status of Hexbear.

On April 8th, officially yesterday as I write this, Hexbear was down for more or less the whole day. I checked Lemmygrad for Hexbear's status, and eventually I determined that it wasn't enough for me to have two accounts on opposite sides of the Lemmy Iron Curtain: I determined that Blåhaj Lemmy is so different from Hexbear that it cannot practically serve as a backup whenever Hexbear is down. And so I decided to apply for a Lemmygrad account, which was soon granted.

And thus we arrive at the present situation, where Hexbear and Lemmygrad are my Eastern Bloc instances, whereas Kbin Social and Blåhaj Lemmy are my Western Bloc instances. Within the span of less than a year I went from refusing to use Lemmy at all because its developer was a "redfash tankie", to unironically having an account on Lemmygrad Dot Em El, although obviously my path towards Marxism can't just be chocked up to Lemmy but obviously a slew of other factors.

In any case, today is the day I truly became Heisenberg. Chemistry is the study of change and all that. All of this only happened because at every turn the more "tankie" option has been better than the liberal option.

Hexbear's back up now, so I guess I'm gonna return to where I came from. Maybe something in the near future will push Lemmygrad to become my main instance. Only time will tell.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

a day or two ago someone described a Hexbear post I’d commented on as a part of the “Hexbear to Lemmygrad pipeline”, to which I replied something like, “What do you mean?” but never got a response.

Yeah, also me. Sorry I didn’t respond sooner: I was busy taking hexbear.net down to move folks along the pipeline nerd

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just because Hexbear is back up doesn't mean you shouldn't pop over to our communities too. I generally get the same feeling of respect and acceptance from users here that I get from hexbear.

[–] imikoy@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Federation was much more smooth than what was predicted. Hexbear and Grad genuinely feel like the only difference is in the emote collection.

I'd like to have a combined feed of the two instances.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 7 months ago

Thanks for sharing this

[–] angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I was annoyed with 'anti tankies' long before I ever consider myself a tankie. it's just so annoying seeing people dismiss like some perfectly logic argument with 'u read theory? tankie'

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 7 months ago

100% and I think this is one of the reasons I fell out of that crowd

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the first time I ever saw Tankie used was some Moroccan on reddit looking at my political compass results and it literally was one point in the red.

before anyone asks I'm not anglo I used Arabic social media before 2020

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I shudder to imagine the type of person who assumes someone with an Algerian flag emoji in her display name is an Anglo.

What's Arabic social media like? What types of platforms are popular?

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What’s Arabic social media like? What types of platforms are popular?

Conspiracy theories, poetry and hasbra bots

popular sites, in North Africa and the Levantine it's facebook, in the Peninsular it's Twitter.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 7 months ago

So basically the same as here but with poetry.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol they say tankie in arabic social media?

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

some Moroccan on reddit

he spoke english

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 7 months ago

I remember seeing tankie being used only a couple of times when I was a lib, then eventually as I was leaning ever more left, I joined r/196 and that's when I started seeing it being used a lot more and started understanding what it meant. By that time I didn't even know much about socialism, let alone communism, so I just thought that the folks there were probably right in "attacking the tankies" since they probably knew much more than I did.

Well, was I wrong, lol. Good thing there's a lot of good ML content on youtube, otherwise I probably would still be a lib by now.

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 7 months ago

ML spaces helped me out of my depression and proto suicidality, the world and its future are a lot brighter now that its not "every major country is evil, all good things fail, there is no hope"

Best wishes

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For some reason I thought you were one of the Hexbear admins/founders.

It's impressive how quickly people adopt the ML-line just through Hexbear.

[–] Erika4sis@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago

I thought you were one of the Hexbear admins

Maybe I'm just particularly active...

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can't interact with the nice people over at Hexbear, PLOX HELP!

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? You should be able to.

[–] ComradeEd@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago

I couldn't at the time. The comments/posts weren't showing up.