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US veteran in Ukraine says Russia is the 'alpha predator on the battlefield' now because of ammo shortages (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 7 months ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/news@hexbear.net

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 52 points 7 months ago (7 children)

He said Ukrainians shared American values and were fighting for freedom, and supporting Ukraine was supporting a democracy — all reasons the US should not give up support, he said.

"We are not going to lose," he said. "That is not going to happen. It's not possible. We'll die before we lose."

This is not the motivational speech they think it is.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago

democracy

When you ban all opposition parties, critical media, and elections

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

“When is real democracy coming to ?”

“We can assure you, it is coming as soon as possible.”

“In a few months, then?”

“That’s… rather optimistic. Though of course it depends on the contingencies.”

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, I hate American values, American “freedom,” and American “democracy,” so I have no choice but to hate every other country that shares the same qualities or aspires to

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

"We'll die before we lose."

putin-wink that's the plan

[–] someone@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

"We are not going to lose," he said. "That is not going to happen. It's not possible. We'll die before we lose."

"'It is always useful to face an enemy who is prepared to die for his country,' he read. 'This means that both you and he have exactly the same aim in mind.'”

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

High ranking officer: “We’ll die before we lose!”

Conscripts: side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[–] D61@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

Conscripts talking to each other: "We can make that happen herr Captain..."

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

I wonder if the HellDivers 2 devs might start creating ammo shortages.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All those billions in “aid” packages, the U.S. couldn’t throw in some bullets?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I think it’s particularly interesting because ammo companies prioritize military contracts first before civilian markets, but prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol. It seems like they’re just chilling.

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol

The ammo Ukraine is desperately low on is for artillery (and apparently the artillery guns themselves). I don't think they're low on small arms ammo.

Also, as an aside, the American in the article is an instructor for the 3rd separate assault brigade AKA Azov lmao. Fighting in a fascist brigade for muh frEeDoMs and dEmOcRacY!!

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

but prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol.

They probably don't want hogs another reason to get mad at something else being expensive.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

No ammunition is already expensive it’s been expensive since 2020. It just hasn’t gotten MORE expensive.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Nah it’s been expensive since 2020 and people keep buying it because they fantasize about being an individualistic warlord in the apocalypse so they refuse to band together to boycott or strike and instead keep buying at gouged prices

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Only Western-aligned countries would fight an obviously lopsided war conventionally.

I wonder what mao-wave would have thought to do about a Russian invasion..............

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Technically the plan was for Ukraine to invade the Donbas first and then once Russia responded, Ukraine was supposed to engage in an insurgency campaign on the incoming Russian forces.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Of course fedposting would look at historical guerilla movements and think, How can I use this to invade? Only a bureaucrat behind a desk could think of something so stupid.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

have they considered like, making their own weapons like every country with a viable long-term national defense strategy or is that illegal under whatever hollowed-out neoliberal financialized state washington demanded they become in return for all the ammo

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Kind of hard to do when Russia can hit anywhere in Ukraine with a precision missile strike. Not to mention that Ukraine no longer has a functioning power grid which sort of precludes any sort of military production at scale.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It really illuminates how incredible it is, what Palestine has been able to accomplish in worse circumstances.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Remembering now that Ukraine denounced Palestine and aspires to be Israel, but it can’t even accomplish what Palestinians can do in tunnels despite the Zelenskillion dollars in aid from western allies

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And how despite waging asymmetrical warfare for decades, the west has no fucking clue what to do when they’re on the other side of that equation

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mentioned it in another comment, but the west actually does know how to engage in asymmetrical warfare as they’re the ones who fund and train insurgents across the globe really. In Ukraine that was pretty much the plan since initially Ukraine was supposed to invade the Donbas then once Russia responded Ukraine was going to engage them in an insurgent campaign until the Russian economy gave up due to sanctions. Obviously that didn’t happen for a multitude of reasons but that was the plan anyways.

[–] KoL_Enjoyer@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any sources or further reading i could do there? Sounds interesting, I just haven't heard anything about this so far.

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only source I have was an RT segment they did where they found manuals printed by the national endowment for democracy describing what I said in my comment. It’ll be hard to find that clip again since RT is banned in the US

[–] KoL_Enjoyer@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Ah, shame.