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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So goddamn sick of fascist populists

They're the only ones allowed to do any populism. Ratchet keeps tightening, because centrists refuse to do anything nice for people and leftists who obtain the power to do so get labeled "tankie" and run out of office.

So of course, the only people allowed to say anything with a baseline public appeal are going to win a fucking popularity contest

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"Tankie" "Socialist" "Communist" the same things thrown at any politicians left of center.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And a few right-of-center, when you look at how DLC Dems like Biden and Clinton got smeared.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago
[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Socialist and Communist, sure. But what politicians have been called tankies? I thought tankies were a specific type of communist.

[–] daellat@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah tankies are just authoritarian apologists specifically for Stalin and Mao types

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've seen like 20 different interpretations of "tankie" on lemmy since moving over here from reddit last year, never heard it before that and I'm a pretty political person.

[–] daellat@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Tankies comes from the word tank obv. More specifically it comes from the tanks the soviets and China used to suppress popular uprisings. People who support these regimes and these actions or try to minimize their terror are tankies.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Tankie is definitely a newer term that hasn't hit the mainstream zeitgeist, I already see it thrown around on lemmy like how conservatives call everything "woke", just a matter of time imo.

To clarify, the other two are usually right wing smears, tankie appears to be a left wing smear to those further left. I know the idea behind it is fake leftists who are actually just Authoritarions but... Still lol that's how it goes with labels a lot of the time, especially the more niche it is

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Tankie has been a pretty common phrase at least since I was in college. I thought they were the folks who carried water for authoritians like Mao and Stalin. It's more specific than 'woke' or even 'liberal', in my experience it's more akin to calling someone maga or antivax; it confers specific positions. I've had friends who proudly identified with the term. Unless it's changed in meaning recently and I didn't get the memo.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I see it thrown around on lemmy a LOT, just like how woke gets thrown around by the right, I'm not saying it doesn't have an actual "true" meaning, just that (like most labels as I mentioned and particularly those that are more specific/niche initially) it eventually gets bastardized and thrown around with the original specific meaning lost.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's because there are a LOT of tankies on lemmy, specifically lemmy.ml. In many threads anything slightly critical of Russia or China will get deleted and the users banned. It may have other meanings but that's what it means here: people carrying water for authoritarian regimes while LARPing as leftists.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

You have to be self aware enough to know it also gets thrown around like any other label incorrectly. It's just a way to ignore someone else's point and bandwagon.