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[–] Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Really no problem with that? I mean deathpenalty instantly makes you a shit state anyway, but potentially having mobile units that can respond quickly to deathpenalty "worthy" crime?

I don't see what could go wrong. /s

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i-think-that

I think that Benito Mussolini had it coming and fully deserved a death penalty

[–] Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That's just whataboutism and waaaaaayyyyyy not my point

[–] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good bot :D Does not change the fact tho

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)
  1. "whataboutism' is a worthless concept only used by idiots trying to find a shortcut away from interrogating an actual argument

  2. you don't seem to have a coherent idea of what it means in the first place

  3. you don't seem to have understood the point being made in that comment

None of these facts are changed by an automated bot making fun of you (and the joke landing)

[–] Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No whataboutism is a terrible defense tactic mainly used by populists.

I am not even gonna answer to the rest of your points.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

Change deez nuts

[–] AdmiralDoohickey@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is whataboutism about that post. They just meant that some people deserve to die because of the atrocities they commited. Do you honestly believe that a serial child molester can be reformed? Would subjecting them to a lifelong stay at a labor camp be better?

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

If you believe that reforming criminals is possible, you'd also need to believe that there's something unique about every criminal part a certain line of severity that makes them somehow physically unredeemable, and I at least have never seen convincing evidence of that.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

is-this

deeply unserious

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Maybe articulate what the actual problem you have is instead of using a weight bearing /s

What's the difference once you cross the line into using the death penalty whether you use an office or an ambulance? The vibes?

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[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (28 children)

Even if the by-all-indications-fictional vans were real, the claim is that they're replacing dedicated static facilities with a smaller number of mobile ones that would just go and set up at a prison as-needed to carry out sentences.

Except the entire thing falls apart with even the slightest scrutiny. Just look at all the things being claimed: that Bad Country is supposedly frivolous and trigger happy and doesn't value life (unlike the noble and civilized US, where police up and murder over a thousand people a year, there's a rabid push for more death sentences, there's a bipartisan consensus eagerly baying for more genocide and ethnic cleansing and both parties breathlessly accuse each other of not being bloodthirsty enough, and mass death and suffering is just casually accepted as necessary for the holy line to go up), but that they then wouldn't also make sure to have dedicated, reliable facilities on hand for it and instead would rely on a sketchy ambulance with a chair and a poison syringe cabinet; the implication that it would be a rushed fast-response extrajudicial thing is also at odds with the idea of having a mobile facility that's performing what's supposed to be a "humane" execution method - if they're so bloodthirsty and barbarous ("because of their brainpans, you see...") why bother with something that's both absurdly convoluted but also really shoddy and sketchy instead of just up and shooting someone?

It's nonsense: there's no reasoning behind it nor material motivations and the whole idea is contradictory and absurd.

[–] SweetLava@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

I didn't really get that out of it at all, but I developed a skill to see past a lot of the garbage. It was fear-mongering and overall just a scary way of saying China has reduced the use of death penalty, there are better mechanisms in place to prevent unlawful/unnecessary use of death penalty, and a drive to replace gunshot execution with lethal injection. The "victims" included are simply multi-million dollar fraud (essentially) and an abused kid that went on to (cw: violence) rape and kill.

You are right, in that there seems to be no widespread use of this van in the event that it is seriously used.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 5 months ago

If you look at the pic in OP and do not have terminal libness stage you would quickly notice it's all hoax and atrocity propaganda.

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they do execute bankers. So it seems pretty good so far

[–] Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

lmao this might be the most valid comment under mine But I am still against the death penalty under all circumstances ;)

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

but potentially having mobile units that can respond quickly to deathpenalty "worthy" crime?

You mean like a SWAT team? WTF are you talking about?

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