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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Back in the day, using Windows was essentially a long series of fucking around with configurations and trying different workarounds to get things to "go". The actual using of the computer was, in a way, secondary.

Nothing has changed. Many many years ago I bought a used Apple to try it out and was just - astounded at how little I needed to mess with things to get them to do what I wanted. It was all in settings. That's it.

Watching Microsoft leap headfirst into full evil is just like watching the seasons change.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So you've obviously never had to use defaults write com.apple.stupidpreference.fix bool true

Apple has a lot less nonsense than Microsoft, but the amount of nonsense is greater than zero. What's really annoying (on their mobile platform specifically) is when certain problems occur on iOS that would have been completely solvable on MacOS with a command line tool, but you have to erase the phone because Apple doesn't give you access to the OS.

MacOS is already deprecating the Keychain access tool, which will obfuscate more of the OS security from the user and make it more iOS-like in trying to fix failures.

Apple is enshittifying in absence of Jobs, they're just behind Microsoft by one or two decades.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The amount of time I've spent getting my MacOS to not be annoying... it's such a shit experience compared to Gnome/Linux. Every single day I use MacOS, I find a new annoying inconsistency, or either poor or directly bad UX design decision or implementation.

Next time I look for a place to work, I'd consider Windows or MacOS to require at least 30% higher salary to be worth the annoyance.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Previously the fucking around was drivers, HAL, compatibility etc. now it's a goddamn delousing

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And y'all say that linux users don't value their time... smh

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In them days Linux was even more about messing around with configurations and finding workarounds. It came on floppies, and as it loaded it made these kind of grinding, farting sounds. We would install it with an onion tied to our belt - which was the style at the time.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 5 months ago

xorg.confusion

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

Hahaha! I've been dabbling in live USB thumbdrive copies of various flavors of Linux to see which one I want to go to for a while. Did a few years back and thought, "you know, my time is worth something to me, maybe I'll give Windows a go, 10 seems pretty stable."

Booted up Debian Cinnamon, couldn't get two-finger right click to work on the Synaptics config out of box, it had a few arbitrary prefs for whatever the devs decided people would probably use. Tried Debian Gnome. It had trackpad settings that were more in line with what I expected... Not giving up, but it did make me pause, because I know one can reconfigure the trackpad driver under the hood, but did I really want to jump down the rabbit hole of bespoke shellscripts again just so my audio driver correctly wakes from sleep (if it can even successfully sleep)?

Other funny to figure out, the computer has iGPU and dGPU, both were active and the battery life was maybe 2 hours. Another thing to figure out with bespoke configurations.

So it's like, Windows and Linux (and lesser, MacOS) pain is definitely there, it is just kinda what kind of pain do you want to subscribe to? Linux pain will probably only occur during initial setup and maybe every few years when a major OS release comes out. MacOS pain is even more rare, unless a major OS release comes out with something you don't like and you have to find where in the OS frameworks the feature is to disable it, if they have hooks in which to do. Windows pain is....every Tuesday.

"Oh here's a new lock screen weather widget"

"Oh cool, I can get on board with that!"

Next week:

"Oh, here's a new stocks and news widget to go along with the weather."

"Hold on there buddy, I didn't sign up for the first and you've pushed two more? Time to shut those two off. Oh, it's all or nothing, thanks! Nothing it is."

"Don't worry, we'll reinstall Dev Home next week and flag it a system app so you can't uninstall it, and then we'll force Copilot to be present, and then we're going to screw with the start menu, and then we're going to delete WordPad, and reinstall all those Office/cloud 365 shim apps and and and." That was like, last month.