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you don't actually think Trump will be materially worse on Gaza or similar issues, you're just filled with horror at the thought that big scary stupid orange man will tweet during the genocide. the average lib's brain was catastrophically shattered by 2016-2020 despite the only meaningful change compared to any other president being that Trump was acting like a buffoon during it. there's a lot of things that got worse during Trump, obviously, but they would have gotten equally worse under Clinton or anybody else.
when liberals do make complaints about how things got materially worse, it's almost invariably true that you can either a) point to how it was already bad until Obama and the trendline just kept going in the same direction, or b) point to how Biden then proceeded to make it worse anyway despite being a Democrat. so the only problem libs genuinely have with Trump, when you peel away the bullshit, was that Trump was an "unpresidential" Tweeter in Chief and they had to endure a bunch of shitty pepe memes being posted at them by dipshit chuds while trying to eat brunch; truly a fate worse than death.
"What if we killed a hundred thousand starving Palestinians like we are now, but the guy in charge was incompetent?" Oh god! Those dead Palestinians will feel much worse knowing that the way they killed was bombs being dropped on them incompetently rather than the result of a smart, systematic, scientific approach via the AI revolution delivered by Final Solutions Inc!
"What if we got rid of the right to an abortion, or let states across the country strike down rights for the LGBTQIA+ like we are now, but this time the guy in charge was tweeting about McDonalds during it?" What a nightmare!
"What if we explicitly reduced the US's ability to fight climate change by expanding the national fossil fuel industry and introducing tariffs on foreign green energy and electric vehicles like we are now, but Trump made our country look silly while doing it?" Please, anything but that!
"What if we built a wall on the southern border and deported more migrants than the previous president and made the lives of migrants absolute living hell with constant violations of human rights by border guards, while the media then pretends that the guards there are being ordered at gunpoint by communist Marxist Stalinist politicians to provide a million dollars to each migrant and let them fuck their wives because the best way to motivate Americans to vote is to make them scared that the Scary Group of Brown People are coming to steal their stuff? But, instead of Biden doing that, Trump was doing it, and he was being RACIST on SOCIAL MEDIA too!" What torture!
C'mon dude, I disagree with the original poster but this is hysteria. Trump's incompetence will not work in favor of anyone, it didn't during all four years of his presidency, because the GOP party apparatus already has a bunch of insane mercenary freaks for him to hire to better materialize their decades long desires.
Trump would absolutely push to nationalize abortion bans and bans on curricula that educates people on LGBTQ kids, Biden is at the least not getting in the way of blue state governors who codify protections against these moves. You can say "well who cares how much faster this fascism happens under Trump when Biden isn't going to reverse the trajectory" and the fact is that still matters to millions of people, they get more years of their life to enjoy the diminishing rights they have or figure out ways to adapt or leave the country.
Democrats always build on the shitty things Republicans introduce, but every new Republican president means a bunch of new shitty things to hand off to democrats to execute. Obama continued Bush policies, but Biden continued Bush and Trump policies. An idea skyrocketing to popularity among Republicans is literally to invade Mexico to fight the cartels, I don't want to give any Dem Trump successor that initiative to prolong.
Trump incompetence will not help the Palestinian people or anyone else, I am not saying people should vote for Biden, but Trump is absolutely worse unless we use vague enough rhetoric to conflate things.
idk man I felt this way but watching libs entirely tune out from the ongoing atrocities as soon as Biden was elected has changed my mind. There would be more of an uproar if it were Trump doing this exact same shit.
Also you seem to be doing a lot of contrarianism and trying to start arguments here lately on your brand new account that seems to be defending Democrats so yeah
What did the liberal uproar against Trump actually accomplish?
Nothing. It only resulted in Trump doubling down and doing shit like the programs to rehome separated toddlers into evangelical families.
If Trump is elected you will get to see the liberal uproar against him that you find more heartening than the liberal apologism for Biden, but what the libs will be in uproar about by then could be far bigger civilian death tolls and far more direct military aid to Israel.
Not to mention, the damage is already done by the lib defenders of Biden, if Trump took over and did more heinous stuff to Palestine, and libs suddenly found a bleeding heart, they'd be dismissed in the national spotlight for how they were complacent when Biden was in office. And we will be able to seethe at them then for what they caused years ago, but that would be all we can do. The power of their future uproar has already been ceded today.
Jared Kushner is already in talks with people in Israel about building resorts across Gazan beaches, and he will be the guy to inform Trump's middle east policy. Lastly, we only get to keep Gaza in the spotlight now because dementia addled Biden is completely aloof and incapable of remaining in the spotlight for long, meaning he doesn't hijack the news cycle with some new bullshit the whole media turns their attention to instead the way Trump did every day.
And if Trump were president now you can bet there would be even more rapey Hitler youth frat bros attacking the encampments, than there are now when the protestors are protesting Biden. There would be way more smears of the encampment in populist non-legacy media like Newsmax/InfoWars that currently don't give a shit about them (they would not be more antisemitic than they are pro-Trump), and libs would keep condemning the protestors for hurting optics either way. There is nothing to gain from Biden in office, there is even more to lose from Trump in office.
And I am not doing contrarianism, you can look at my post history, I may be more lib than you but rest assured that that is purely organic and not insidious. I am just trying to evaluate material outcomes and trying to game out what results in minimal harm, I just don't think Biden sucking ass justifies reflexively trying to fumble for dogshit arguments about why things might incidentally work out better under Trump.
I'm not fuckin voting for Biden take your worthless walls of text elsewhere.
It doesn't matter if you think Trump will be worse. I am not voting for the guy that let RvW fall and is supporting genocide and continuing or ratcheting up all Trump's policies while lulling liberals into complacency and even more complicity.
Fuck outta here.
But have you considered how bad it would be if Trump (hypothetically) pursued Biden's agenda even more aggressively than Joe Biden?
I am not asking you to vote, I am asking you to stop grandstanding and doing motivated reasoning for how Trump would be better.
Why are you trying to start an argument about which horrible option is better? Biden was worse because he’s competent. Both are sociopaths. Both are suffering from dementia. Both oversaw the erosion of rights. Both oversaw apartheid and genocide. Trump’s narcissism works against him, though, because he gets distracted and doesn’t get as much done. Biden is good at what he does, and what he’s doing is hastening the end of human life. Accelerationists for Biden!!!
Crucially what you are doing isn't motivated reasoning though, genocide supporter
Why would you not ask him to vote if you truly believe that there is a better choice?
A centrist too, lmao
Never asked anybody to vote, just wanted people do not perpetuate the delusion thay Trump's incompetence may be incidentally beneficial for the things Biden fucked up.