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[–] katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 111 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The funny thing is that the "extra strength" placebos likely have a better chance of working. The more elaborate and involved the placebo is, the greater the chance of it actually working even if you know it is a placebo. Our minds are weird. As always, I'm too lazy to look up the actual study so I don't know if it was a quality study or not.

[–] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The important thing is that you believe there was a study ;p

[–] katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I haven't read the study of course. Only read about it. Which makes the claim above even more dubious. But hey, this is the future, who has the time to fact check anymore?

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you only read about it that gives it 50% chance at best at being true. Luckily I also read about it, so together that makes it 100% true.

[–] katja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago

Math checks out.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

You could ask an AI, maybe they'll invent a source for you

[–] variants@possumpat.io 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But you also might get more nocebos where you get negative effects from the placebo

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trick yourself better you rube.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Gaslight yourself to health

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Somebody from Behavioural Economics has actually shown a nocebo effect for something with genuine positive health effects when people tought it was an ultra cheap version.

The story of that is in one of the Freakonomics books.

[–] melooone@feddit.de 14 points 3 months ago

This reminded me of an episode of Mind Field, which shows significant improvent in cases of ADHD, Migraines, and a skin picking disorder in kids just through the placebo effect.

They use elaborate set ups and suggestions like a turned off MRI machine, fake nurses and doctors in lab coats, etc. And the kids are actually told, that it's their brain doing the healing, not the machine.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I heard that the placebo effect for pain meds is stronger in the US (than in Europe?) because there's more advertisment for it in the US (how they made sure this is causation and not correlation I have no idea, though ...)

[–] Blackmist 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I believe it's red placebos that are better at helping with pain.

The brain is a fucky old thing.

[–] Duranie@literature.cafe 6 points 3 months ago

It's been a while since I looked at this, but different color pills "work" better for different ailments. Also the size and numbers of pills effect results as well. Two pills are "stronger" than one, bigger pills over smaller as well.