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Clearly, you didn't understand what I was trying to explain any better than your niece would have.
If anyone's abandoning personal responsibility, it's the awful candidates who don't do their job and then blame people who suffer for it much more than the candidates ever will.
I'm not saying that it's a good or even neutral thing to not vote for the lesser evil when only evils are available. Of course that's had.
I'm saying that it's the responsibility of the candidates to not be evil and to convince enough voters of it that the greater evil doesn't win.
I understand that you’re trying to blame others for something that’s your own responsibility: educating yourself, and the consequences of your own actions, such as your vote
And while you whine about candidates “not being evil” and refuse to vote for Biden, you help the far more “evil” Trump win.
But I’m sure, just like my 3 year-old niece, you’ll find someone else to blame for the consequences of your actions.
Clearly you don't understand since that's in no way what I'm doing. I DO educate myself about the candidates, their policy positions and their trustworthiness at every election. I'm saying that not everyone CAN s that since they already have more to do than can be reasonably expected of them.
Again, not myself I'm talking about. I'm gonna be at my local polling place come election day no matter how much I have to hold my nose and suppress my gag reflex
I have it easier than just tens of millions of working poor: I don't have to work long hours on election day. I don't have children I'd need to get someone to look after and my local polling place isn't understaffed and the only one available to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people.
Voting isn't easy for everyone as it is for me and evidently also you.
Again not once since I turned 18 23 years ago have I missed a chance to cast my vote
Nope, that's you lot with your insistence that everyone shut up and obey your crappy candidates and never demand good choices.
A good candidate would beat the orange man-child in a landslide ten times out that ten. Only awful candidates lose to him or barely scrape a win.
It’s the first thing you said in your first reply to me. lol
When it’s your vote, of course it is. you’re just trying to deflect responsibility for that (and educating yourself) onto others. It was the very first thing you said to me.
And
Making up stories again as an excuse to blame others for the consequences of your actions.
And you’re hallucinating again if you heard anyone say that you can’t demand good choices. But you’re also delusional if you believe that helping Trump win by not voting for Biden will accomplish anything but the opposite.