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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

Rules

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

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[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 37 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'll build it, just as soon as you figure out how it gets paid for.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Get paid by landlords to remove negative reviews, like yelp. Offer to show all reviews, even removed ones, to renters that pay for the premium service.

Ew, I feel gross after coming up with that idea.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 7 points 5 months ago

It's a lovely pattern to look out for, your efforts to show just how ugly it is, are welcome.

For anyone considering implementing this: No.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

shake down bad landlords to delete bad reviews.

charge landlords for priority in search results.

sell searcher info as marketing data.

sell search trends as financial early indicators to hedge funds.

expand to HOA reviews for neighborhoods.

[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Real estate advertising, surely?

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. No.

"Advertise your rental property on the page where your tenants review you."

[–] boogetyboo@aussie.zone 8 points 5 months ago

Most retailer websites have customer reviews on them?

They could also promote houses for sale (not rent).

I think it works.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

"I mean... If you really value your brand, you'll stand behind it? I can put you on the opt-out list though, so future tenants know you don't stand behind it. I'm offering value at a fraction of the cost of advertisement and you're paying for peace of mind."

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Nonprofit ... crowd funded... build it and all you need afterward are paying for servers. Then you're just doing donations like Wikipedia. How much would would it cost to maintain such servers? Seems fundable by a wealthy liberal.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And then a wealthy slumlord does the math and finds out it's cheaper to pay people to sabotage the website than to lose tenants due to reviews.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You know somehow wikipedia maintains it's integrity pretty well.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wikipedia has two significant advantages:

  1. The content is objective, and sources should be cited.
  2. Individual editors are volunteers with actual interest in their topics.

The former makes for a clear and low-effort bar for determining if a contribution is bad. If it's not cited, or it's biased, revert and move on. Figuring out if a user-written review is paid for, factually false, or exaggerated is a lot harder.

As for the latter... aside from doing it out of spite or as a favor to landlord friends, I have a hard time imagining that many people would volunteer their time moderating the review page about the apartment they rented 14 years ago.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Well, I don't think the content is objective. There are many politically contentious articles and they have systems, disclaimers, and discussions to try to deal with it.

I think the moderators would be locals looking over an entire neighborhood, sort of like our Lemmy mods.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Just an FYI. Wikipedia is actually privately funded at this point. They don't need donations anymore. From what I have seen of their financial statements, the donations are essentially building a slush fund for them, at this point, and have been for the last few years.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah that's kinda what I meant by the wealthy liberal thing. Make something good enough and you only need a couple good donors.