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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 48 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Just because they've said this 3 elections in a row doesn't mean it hasn't been true each time.

The problem is that fascism keeps gaining territory, and eventually it will be the last election you get to vote in.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the problem is if you want to actually win you can't just keep saying it's the most important election and you have to vote for us or else over and over again. People will get desensitized eventually and stop caring and then the fascists will win. You have to do good things that make people want to vote for you and judging by public opinion Biden has not been doing the best at that. (This isn't how I feel, I'm still gonna vote for him to stop Trump and I think people should vote for Biden. I'm just saying why average people who aren't this dialed into politics aren't gonna keep voting and that will be the downfall of Biden.)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

they’ve said this 3 elections in a row

You don't think anyone was saying it in 2008 or 2004 or 1996 or 1984? Nevermind the off-years, the municipal elections, the special elections, the judicial elections, the time when your favorite politician is on a singing show...

The problem is that fascism keeps gaining territory

Isn't it curious that Democrats can hold every branch of the federal government in 2008 only to watch fascism grow out of control on their watch? And then, by 2016, the cancer is everywhere, so we need to vote them all out. But the people we're voting for won't do a fucking thing to keep ACB off the bench for three months. So there goes the Courts. And then they've got Congressional majorities and the Presidency in 2021, but... oops, again! Can't prosecute Trump. Can't prosecute DeSantis. Can't prosecute Ken Paxton. Can't even prosecute Rudy fucking Guiliani.

And now we're back in 2024, begging for votes, because we need one more shot to do our fucking jobs, please, please, PLEASE, just one more vote, we promise this time it'll be different!

Only this time, we're sending 2000 lb bunker busters to Israel so they can slaughter Palestinians, while our candidate of choice is getting up in front of college crowds to tell them that any kind of protest is an illegal form of antisemitism. And the entire pitch for the Presidency this time around appears to be "If you don't vote for me, the wealthiest people in the country will hit the big Heat Up The Planet button until we all bake to death (but even if you do they still might)".

Cool cool cool. Love democracy.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

They keep wanting their voters to feel that way, while apparently not being bothered enough to do something about it themselves. Like, are we supposed to believe that this election could plunge the US into 1000 years of darkness, but at the same time we absolutely cannot stop supporting a genocide halfway across the world, even if that may well make the difference in the election?

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been hearing that it's the most important election of my lifetime since at least 2008. The problem is that this kind of rhetoric becomes meaningless over time. The Democrats need to stop telling people it's the most important election of their lives and starting telling them why it's important. "The policies that Trump is advocating for are literally fascism, and the right-wing extremists in the Supreme Court won't stop him," carries a lot more weight than, "Hey, I know I say this a lot, but this is actually a once in a lifetime, super important election."

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

he Democrats need to stop telling people it’s the most important election of their lives and starting telling them why it’s important. “The policies that Trump is advocating for are literally fascism, and the right-wing extremists in the Supreme Court won’t stop him,” carries a lot more weight than, “Hey, I know I say this a lot, but this is actually a once in a lifetime, super important election.”

What do you think we've been saying.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

LOL, name a single sitting Democrat that has said that. Every day I listen to left-leaning pundits avoid the word fascism or talk about Trump's batshit policies like he's just another Republican. When is Nancy Pelosi going to go on Meet the Press and say, "Donald Trump is preparing a fascist movement that will end American democracy?" It's great that Liberals and Leftists of Lemmy agree on this one, but somebody should tell the party leadership.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Forreal lol, it's like when Trump would learn some basic, middle-school level fact and then would talk about it and say, "No one knew this!"