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[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Honestly it's just an ethical stance against forcing one to pay for another, emphasis on force.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We all pay for it when a child with potential gets sick and dies because their parents couldn't afford health care. We all pay in one way or another when health care bankrupts a family. We are all going to pay for it anyways, and if someone in a worse financial position than you needs health care and your taxes can provide that, you're garbage if you feel you're being forced or you're mad cause a poor person got medicine with your taxes.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No. I'm a Canadian that actually knows what socialized programs like healthcare do to a country. It's not great. Socialized medicine is one of the major of the hundred little cuts impoverishing Canadians. Mississippi and Alabama have higher per capita average income and personal wealth than the richest Canadian province, before and after taxes. Despite the huge amount of wealth transfer to the government for reallocation, they inevitably start acting like its their money, wasted in ridiculous ways aside from the original point, a bureaucratic mafia forms intent on nothing but its own continuance, and then you've Canadians denied health insurance either formally (I'm not allowed to have it because I've not a fixed address in the province I pay income tax, but i can't just not pay taxes either) or informally by denial of needed care (that's the common one). I do have American health insurance. I spend 5 months a year in the states, acquiring insurance was as simple as paying for it.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not being impoverished by universal health care, I'm being impoverished by corporation and those "free market" fucks who are anti union, anti workers, and pro fascism.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Insults are a sure sign that your argument was destroyed and you can't handle it

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Just keep telling yourself that

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

so is it unethical for society to take care of orphans?

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck them orphans. (Completely irrelevant amd illogical appeals to emotion will be treated as seriously as deserved)

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Orphans are real and a serious issue. A large percentage of homeless people today are people who went through the US foster system.

Children whose parents are A) unable B) unwilling or C) dead ... all become society's problem to feed and house and you've basically said that its unethical to do so.

[–] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago