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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/memes@lemmy.world
 

is the man or bear thing rhetorically or optically the perfect feminist meme that is beyond criticism? no.

but is it leaps and bounds better at getting men to understand the material consequences of patriarchy on the physical and emotional health of women than that stupid “kill all men” meme from last decade? definitely.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like this exchange from 30 Rock is relevant here:

I forget the exact context for the scene, but Kenneth disagrees with Jack and objects that he [Kenneth] is also a white man. Jack corrects him that he is not and is, socio-economically speaking, an inner-city Latina.

Jack represents the patriarchy/ruling money class in the show.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i believe you but if anyone can link the scene that would be dope as im a little lost 😅

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I remember it now. Dunno if I can link to the scene or not. It's one of the episodes Fey had pulled because they used race-changing makeup.

The plot is Tracy and Jenna were arguing whether it was more difficult to be a black man or a woman. So Tracy uses make up and a wig to dress like a white woman (except for his hand which was a monster claw because they ran out of makeup after he insisted they paint his buttocks). Jenna, meanwhile, uses makeup and a wig to look like a black man. Hijinks ensue.

This scene is when Jack steps in to settle it and says it's actually harder to be a white man. That's when this clip starts.

Synopsis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Believe_in_the_Stars