Electric Vehicles

268 readers

2 users here now

A UK-centric Electric Vehicles community, where discussion/news of the wider European continent is welcome.

All discussion of EVs (and hybrids for the moment), charging networks, etc, welcome!

No USA/Americas news unless it is relevant to the UK/Europe - most of the existing EV communities on Lemmy are awash with US discussion, please use one of those. US news and discussion will be removed.

The main "global" EV community is !electricvehicles@slrpnk.net

Electric vehicle avatar/icon created by Freepik - Flaticon

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

i_am_not_a_robot

snacks

eric

Worried carmakers call for urgent UK help to reignite waning interest in electric vehicles (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 6 months ago by Emperor to c/evs

15 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Car manufacturers have called for urgent action to reignite the switch to electric vehicles, after sales figures showed slowing demand among ordinary motorists for battery-powered cars.

While overall UK registrations grew by 1% in April year-on-year to 134,000, the increase was caused by fleet sales, with private buyer sales down by almost 18% on last year.

Manufacturers are alarmed by slowing sales growth in battery electric vehicles, which in the first four months of 2024 have only increased market share by 0.3% from the same period in 2023, to 15.7%, despite the rapid take-up in previous years.

While the industry expects the figure to improve this year, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) said that BEV sales would be below government targets of 22% of all new cars, and called for steps to “re-enthuse” buyers, including tax cuts, incentives and more chargers.>

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] Krill 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The numbers of pence per kilowatt hour for an EV does not change dependent on the comparison to a petrol or diesel car. If we are talking about the efficiency savings, we would expect greater savings for the EV compared to a petrol car doing 30 mpg versus the comparison to a diesel car. And 3 miles per kilowatt hour isn't that unreasonable, you are not going to get 4 except in specific circumstances.

I think it's obvious that the more miles per unit time, the quicker an EV will pay off. But then, one does need to charge at home so the other challenges (off road parking, long enough between use periods) makes a large difference. It does not surprise me that it works better for you with a works van and high mileage, where it can be classed as a business expense with BiK bonuses. But it doesn't help Joe bloggs who does 6k/year at a push.

I'd like to buy an EV. I expect my next car to be one, whether I like it or not, and I've set everything up including solar panels to wring out every efficiency I can. But with this tax system and fuel cost differences the sums don't add up for me, and most other people.

[–] jabjoe 1 points 6 months ago

You have to compare like for like. A 60mpg is not equivalent to 3mpkwh. 60mpg is top end efficiency and 3mpkwh is bottom end.

If you can't charge at home, right now, I'm not sure I'd advice an EV yet. Public chargers are normally a rip off. It's pretty much the same kind of costs as fossil fuels. It needs tackling frankly.

If you got solar and a home charger , then yes, you can drive around even cheaper than my numbers. I know people whose mile cost is basically zero over summer and only the same as me in winter.

The upfront costs are coming down as the ranges go up. Long run, economics alone will kill ICE. Even without the negative feedback loops it will get in as there is less ICE so less economics of scale.