Many people claiming it may be a symptom of a rotten society, but many people actually believing it is a symptom of irreparable stupidity (yes libs, I know you're reading this)

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's really funny because nearly everyone hates 'the government', but when you suggest that maybe the system itself is also to blame, you're suddenly a 'foreign agitator'

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If not voting helped overthrow the government in any way maybe you'd have a point

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In what way would voting help?

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Never said it did. They're two unrelated things. Which is why i don't understand why voting for the "lesser of two evils" means i support them, or capitalism in any way.

This whole argument feels like the old "if you're a communist, why do you have a phone?" thing all over again.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A vote legitimises the government. By voting for someone you signal that you approve of their politics. A vote is very basically you signalling that you support a specific candidate. That's just what a vote is.
"Oh but I don't actually support him, he's just the least bad" Do you think Joe Biden is going to go door to door to ask wether your vote for him was a "real vote" or just a "please not trump" vote? biden-alert
It doesn't matter what you feel about the candidate you're voting for, it matters that you're voting for them. That's what they count.

It doesn't matter what you think your vote is, what it does is support a candidates claim for power and subsequently legitimises that power. The US constantly uses the fact that it is a "democracy" (never mind the fact that it isn't, since popular vote doesn't matter) to legitimise it's foreign and domestic policy. Your vote aids them in doing that.

Anyway I've blocked you because I don't discuss basic politics with people who votes for genocide.

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol, i'm not even american

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Oof, admitting to US bootlicking while not even being American? That's a...bold move.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"i don't understand why voting for someone means i support them"

lol

Death to America

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Unless you're planning on starting a revolution tomorrow, i'm still subject to whatever the policies the people in power install, so i'd rather pick the one that harms me and the people i care about the least.

Though i'm not sure why i bother arguing. You people just want to feel superior for doing nothing.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are people on this site that did more praxis in the past year alone than every vote you could cast in your entire lifetime. Please do not presume to think we "do nothing" just because the only political action you can imagine is voting once every two years.

And you have the audacity to accuse us of "wanting to feel superior" just because you are defensive of your willful ignorance.

No investigation no right to speak.

[–] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 months ago

America is so free that you can even be a communist however it's impossible that you would be far left if you are not a foreign agent and therefore you are punishable by death for infiltrating the country