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Bill Barr says Trump often suggested executing rivals in heated White House outbursts
(www.independent.co.uk)
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"I could go on."
Oh, please, do.
So you are asserting that we should just straight up execute those people, and some other possible petroleum company leaders and shitty corrupt politicians, and that will definitely fix the world. And you don't see that being reductive or naive in the slightest?
You refuse to acknowledge that non-violent activism can deal with systemic change better than your ridiculously vague threats of violence towards a couple of examples of politicans and fossil fuel people who could be replaced instantly with another one just like them.
You still refuse to read history. Just just refuse. Just like you claim you're "trained", which you are not, you do not know history, in the slightest.
How did the civil rights movement work in the US? Why?
Who has arguably been more influenftial in the history of the human race, Jesus or Hitler? Do you know what the word "martyr" means and where it comes from? Can you name the last time workers rights were improved by explicitly violent movements (and not peaceful protests which turned rowdy).
No-one is denying the power of change of violence, but I'll forgive you thinking that, because reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strengths. The point is that non-violent cooperative movements are much more powerful for meaningful, lasting change.
Since you just absolutely refuse to acknowledge the power of nonviolent resistance in favour of your childish fantasies, allow me to list examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago#End_of_slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_Resistance_(Hungary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1st_Movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Egyptian_revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-cooperation_movement_(1919%E2%80%931922)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_resistance_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_resistance_to_apartheid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Democratic_Revolution_of_1954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_United_States_involvement_in_the_Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larzac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_of_Liberia_Mass_Action_for_Peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Egyptian_revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_revolution
The fact that you can't see that your resistance to the idea that nonviolent resistance is more powerful for meaningful change (not to mention morally superior) is partly responsible for why the world is as shit as it is. And if yo somehow found a genie to make your fantasies true, the world would be an even worse place. Who do you think you are? The Unabomber? Just drop off a few "evil" keyfigures and the world will all right itself. It's not about achieving systemic changes in attitude, let's just summarily execute some corrupt idiots, because there's definitely not more to replace the ones you decide aren't worth living.
It's just so utterly utterly childish what you're writing mister not-a-trained-soldier. I have taken a literal vow to defend my country, and will do so, but unlike some deeply disturbed gun-bros, I don't dream about violence, I actively avoid it. See, unlike you, I'm not afraid. That's why I don't own a gun, I'm not a pussy who "needs one for protection". I confront people, but I don't need to resort to violence. I use my words, like an adult person. And I do that with for example the fairs I drove when I used to drive a taxi, oftentimes meaning drunk and drugged up bikers as well. None of them ever hit me, although everyone that got mad said they would. Hot air, just like you. Nothing more.
If you actually want to improve the world, at least keep your mouth shut so you're not bothering actual conversations with your useless violence fantasies.
as i said in my previous reply, i'd like to really explore our differences in depth. i would like to mention now that, if you rinse repeat the process i described, no one would ever want that job and without leadership, these companies would begin to crumble and exert less influence over global politics.