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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you can't be questioned, you're not science.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Disbelief≠skepticism

There are people in the comments denying literal, established, concrete facts. That's not questioning anything,; that's ignorance at best and malevolence at worst.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You decide what's fact. Everything you ever thought you knew is stuff someone told you and you believed it based on their presentation. You've never seen evidence. You've seen them telling you there's evidence.

[–] tiny_electron@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Try doing some simple physics experiments with pendulum and stuff. It is quite simple to set up and will make you use many different physics concepts.

For quantum mechanics, I suggest diffraction and the double slit experiment that are quite easy to do with a cheap laser pointer.

That way you can rediscover scientific models yourself!

If you are not willing to try it, then you don't really have legitimacy criticizing thé work of scientists.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not criticizing work so much as all the things where the claim work is done but wasn't.

As a flow artist, I understand pendulums more than most. I heckin live pendulums! I play with them every day!

Science is good. Science publishing is out of hand.

[–] force@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What if you're doing the research real-time? What if you, yourself, have done the experiments which logically are evidence? There are a lot of things you can scientifically prove yourself. And there are a lot of phenomena you can mathematically prove without even doing the experiments, although you have to try to mitigate or account for chaos / the specific environment you're working with.

Conspiracy bullshit like "you haven't seen the scientific evidence so it might just all be made up by so-called scientists" is garbage. You are a nut if you think that. It is on the same level as flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh yeah, I'm not against the idea of science. Doing it yourself from the ground up is pretty solid. All of your own experiences are at the very least valid as you experienced them.

If you can believe the scale of vote fraud Trump pulled off, you can believe that textbooks are often written with an interest in influencing our young. I'm mostly against history as it's taught. It's written by the victors and so much of it comes off as fables and allegories to keep people in line.