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[โ€“] Brokewood@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Allow me to share a story that's been copy and pasted countless times:

The Parable of the Nazi Bar

I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, "no. get out."

And the dude next to me says, "hey i'm not doing anything, i'm a paying customer." and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, "out. now." and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, "you didn't see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them."

And i was like, ohok and he continues.

"you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it's always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don't want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it's too late because they're entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

And i was like, 'oh damn.' and he said "yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people."

And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven't forgotten that at all.

[โ€“] Flax_vert 4 points 7 months ago

This happened to my Minecraft server :(

[โ€“] PatMustard 4 points 7 months ago

While that's an important parable, it's not really relevant to this article. The parable is about not letting the intolerant (whether neonazis or whoever) into your space because they'll ruin it, the article is about a (seemingly!) normal pub that has lots of bits and bobs including a Nazi armband. There's no mention of actual neonazis gathering there, and the only ones who seem to be going in that direction are whichever "libertarian" knobs wrote the original post (who I'll bet have never set foot there either!)

Seems like a classic internet overreaction from everyone involved to me. There's a big difference between your collection being that one from Father Ted (alternate link) and just having a piece of history on display which (seemingly!) nobody is trying to glorify. I would naively hope that people old enough to be drinking in a pub are mature enough to understand the difference.