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Don't get me wrong, I will probably cave at the last minute and vote SNP again for a number of reasons. Mostly, being supportive of a number of their progressive policies that I have benefited from over the years, and also because my constituency is a two horse race between them and the Tories who I will never vote for. Though the SNP are probably now at their lowest point in years since they finally managed to oust Sturgeon.

I will also never vote Labour, they have no identity here and during the 2019 election they were campaigning for the Tories to oust SNP here, so 100% fuck them too.

I once voted for Lib Dem and we ended up with the catastrophic Clegg/Cameron coalition (though due to FPTP my vote didn't matter there.)

I would like to vote for Green, but it would be a wasted vote here.

It's just bizarre to me that Westminster's voting system is such that a vast majority of votes in the UK are binned, how is this considered normal?

Sorry for the rant, but I am just so incredibly disillusioned with politics in this shitehole of a country but absolutely refuse to be passive about it since that is what they want us to be.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The most realistic scenario to make that happen, if we're talking purely hypotheticals, is a coalition government between libdems and labs, where the former demands RCV as a concession.

Is it currently likely? No, but it's definitely something you could read in a history book and it wouldn't make you fall out of your chair.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even in the event of a Lib/Lab coalition, Labour would likely require any voting reform too through a referendum as a final get-out. I don't think anyone wants a repeat of the AV referendum (or maybe any referendum in general for that matter).

Although if we find ourselves with an ascending Reform Party, who support PR, and declining Conservative Party, who might come round to it out of desperation, that could leave Labour alone as the FPTP holdout.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I could see that, if we do see a severe Conservative rout after the election. All we need now is an ascendant reform party...

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a feeling that the election after next will just be back to Tories anyway.

All of those that voted selfishly will still vote selfishly once the country is in a state to offer them something again.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do you feel conservatism is alive and flourishing in the next generation of voters?

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hmm.

Are we at the point of the young out voting the currently old? I don't have the stats but my feeling is we aren't at that tipping point for another ten years or so.

I'd say tories are losing out on this election because they've just pissed off the electorate so much, including their older voters. But I'd wager a number of those older voters will still be around and willing to vote Tories in the next election when there's some more gutting of the country to benefit them.

But if you have stats that prove my feeling wrong I'd definitely want to see them, but I'm not interested enough to look it up myself :D

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, fuck knows buddy. Some days I'm Captain Easy Answers, but today I'm happy with Col. Of Truth.