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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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'It’s a common misconception that we recommend all EAs “marry to give,” or marry a high-net-worth individual with the intent of redirecting much of their wealth to effective causes' (web.archive.org)
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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean maybe if their serious beliefs weren't all so absurd I'd have an easier time distinguishing those from satire absurd beliefs 🤷‍♀️

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What you don't think the rokos basilisk or becoming a billionaire to steal from the common people to give to the underpants gnomes is a good idea?

(I was wondering randomly, SBF tried to pull a 'but im so ethical, I meant so well' in his trial, did he actually give money to good causes, or was that still the step after 2:??? of his master plan?)

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ponzi-money-spending.docx:

  1. A $35 million Bahamas penthouse office including private chef and pharmacist
  2. Celebrity TV ads and the FTX arena
  3. Private jets, real estate, luxury cars, and a yacht
  4. $100 million between both US political parties, other political donations (this story looks wild, haven't read it yet)
  5. VIP parties to rub shoulders with the rich, famous, and politically connected.
  6. Donations to various EA groups, as well as some guy writing questions for prediction markets
  7. Donations to museums, universities
  8. Unfortunately the $200k donation to Rajalakshmi Children Foundation never went through before FTX had a teensie liquidity issue.
  9. Gifts for his own family (how sweet :)

Overall the reporting on this is pretty scattered. I didn't find any one article that covered every knowable donation.

He certainly wasn't truly invested in criming for the good of the world (as long as you don't count ponzi victims as part of the world); because if he was he'd have run a much tighter ship.

He cultivated an image of scruffy philanthropist uninterested in worldly things, and for some reason the media ate this up. Meanwhile he was making conscious decisions to keep his criminal enterprise going as long as possible so he could keep living a life of nerdy luxury before it all came crashing down.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 7 months ago

the Carrick Flynn story is hilariously sneerable, yes