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The adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented U.S. officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary, out of fear Russian authorities might learn their intelligence sources or methods.

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[–] PanoptiDon@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why most classified information is withheld and Russia isn't exactly an ally right now.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia was hated since NATO was formed.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

NATO was formed in 1949, already after 2nd world war. Russia has been hated for way longer, so much so that countries neighboring it saw "allying"* with nazis preferable over having Russia take over them

*some didn't have much option, allying or being taken over with much more violence

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Russia did not take over anyone, though. Infact, USSR broke up into many countries, and today we have Russia, a country that US ex-VP Dick Cheney once said NATO's goal was to balkanise. Anglos have instilled hatred against communism for a couple centuries now.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm including USSR in the term Russia because obvious reasons, it was still the same country with different name, and USSR annexed bunch of countries around it.

Those countries that "broke from USSR" were independent nations before.

No one has instilled as much hate against communism as the few dictatorships calling themselves communist have. Not even USA, where 'communist' has been a slur for the past hundred years

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No one has instilled as much hate against communism as the few dictatorships calling themselves communist have

Which dictatorships are these?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I should have probably said they claim to be socialist, but USSR and North Korea was first ones in my mind.

I like your question, it's only purpose is to try catch me on some small technicality, or get a chance to bombard 17 links to tankie wiki with alternative facts about how Stalin was actually a great democratically selected leader

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Stalin was far greater than any US President and a lot of presidents/heads in European countries that have had anti-immigrant and/or white coloniser agenda, solely on the basis that Stalin never genocided any aboriginals or natives, or discriminated against people that are not Caucasians.

It is interesting that you think USSR and DPRK are dictatorships, just because they oppose imperialist white fascism, are socialist states, and face sanctions or atrocities. North Korea today is so poor because USA bombed the fuck out of it in 1980s.

Bet you think USA and Europe are "civilised" democracy places? I would also correct you on that. Every single western country that today claims to be a democracy, until they looted, pillaged and genocided in non-white countries, were all dictatorships. There was no western democracy, and there is still none. And they are less democratic than whatever China/Russia are, despite centuries of looting and genocide. Try to voice against western heads, war crimes and actual problems and see how fast you get jailed or disappeared or starved to death.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anyways, very fitting username.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great argument. I am sure your dad is proud of you with such intellectual performance out in the world.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What you were rambling on is not worth an answer with thought behind it. I'm only fascinated how messed up one's thought process can be to come to that sorta conclusions.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, gotta be messed up in the head to think of people and countries that are not white and do not loot, colonise or genocide. Sad! I can(not) feel you.

Just in case you made up thoughts, I am from India, still the most peaceful and largest world democracy that does not have a history of invasion.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, gotta be messed up in the head to think of people and countries that are not white and do not loot, colonise or genocide.

Gotta be messed up from head if you think this is what I'm saying. And still defending Russian imperialism for some reason?

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago

Russian imperialism

That is all I needed to know about you.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Red Scare is a more like side goal because communism threatens oligarchies. The Soviet Union also had its hand in persecuting communists.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which communists are these, that USSR persecuted? Are you talking about the Tsar era, which nobody thinks was good?

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Tsar was gone by something like the purges in 30s