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It is expected to be 2-3 months before Threads is ready to federate (see link). There will, inevitably, be five different reactions from instances:

  1. Federate regardless (mostly the toxic instances everyone else blocks)

  2. Federate with extreme caution and good preparation (some instances with the resources and remit from their users)

  3. Defederate (wait and see)

  4. Defederate with the intention of staying defederated

  5. Defederate with all Threads-federated instances too

It's all good. Instances should do what works best for them and people should make their home with the instances that have the moderation policies they want.

In the interests of instances which choose options 2 or 3, perhaps we could start to build a pre-emptive block list for known bad actors on Threads?

I'm not on it but I think a fair few people are? And there are various commentaries which name some of the obvious offenders.

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[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

So why is it important to not federate (or block) with Thread? Asking seriously. I read the article and while those are valid and real concerns. What is the net gain of that action? How does it help the fediverse? I cant see any way that it helps and lots of ways it hurts. At this point it seems like a lot of what ifs.

Edit:

If you need the reasons why to block Threads (meta) I think the answers below explain it better than most!

[–] gvsabi@mstdn.social 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

@ninekeysdown @jocanib i would say its because its meta trying to get a foothold on the fediverse and possibly take people away from here. people might just use threads instead of mastodon or lemmy since they can get the content on threads. my take

[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Wouldn't more people using federated software be a good thing? EEE is a valid concern eg XMPP (GTalk). I'm not sure (not saying it's impossible) how that would happen in this case. I see it being more like email than XMPP for instance. I could be way too idealistic & optimistic as well

[–] gvsabi@mstdn.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ninekeysdown just more people using the fediverse isnt the main goal. or at least my goal. its keeping the stuff foss, privacy respecting, and etc. activity pub allows for federation but what is built on top of it can be proprietary as hell. as is the case of threads. im threatened by threads because its taking away peoples privacy.

[–] Zaktor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think the Fediverse has privacy as a primary feature. If federating is enough to grab some hidden data, it's a simple matter to set up a small dummy instance to get that access.

[–] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Excellent point that I had not considered. Thanks!

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