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[–] ech@lemm.ee 118 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I see this a lot in media criticism. People complaining about "plot holes" or something just not making sense, meanwhile it was explicitly pointed out or explained. I'd blame people being on their phones or something, but the truth isn't that sympathetic.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 73 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A good example is Titanic where people keep saying Jack could fit on the door, despite the film showing him trying to get onto the door and almost capsizing it, so he leaves it alone to ensure Rose's safety.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 6 months ago

Even if he could fit on it, calling it a plot hole still doesn’t make sense to me. I’d way sooner assume the character is just a chivalrous idiot that died for no reason, which does fit his characterisation and the plot of the movie.

Also clearly people who have never fallen out of a two person canoe/kayak and tried to get back in without tipping the whole thing over.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago

What is buoyancy?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Cool. A good example of a solution to this is a child's kick board.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 6 points 6 months ago

Oh, you mean those things where you hold on and they keep you afloat? Because he was holding on, and the icy cold waters put him to sleep. Your solution is what killed him in the movie.

The entire point of the scene is to show the sacrifice of those who died to ensure the survival of those who lived. If you try to think up a solution, you have missed the point.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A children’s kick board kills the child if it’s in water that cold

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think I'd take my chances rather than just letting myself drown.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 48 points 6 months ago (4 children)

People weren't on their phones when they saw the Stormtroopers let the rebels get away from the death star so they could track them, heard one rebel say "they let us get away from the death star so they can track us," and then spent 50 years joking about how awful stormtrooper aim is

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a good thing there's like 12-15 different scenes with stormtroopers who can't aim in the original trilogy then.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

That’s just covering fire to cover for the first instance

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

And then Disney made the joke canon because of the algorithm.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

to be fair all action movie baddies do have garbage aim despite being the scary powerful elite squad militia or something. i hate this trope so hard.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

And Tarkin telling Vader, "You're sure the homing beacon is secure aboard their ship? I'm taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work."

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

People complaining about “plot holes” or something just not making sense

Then you have Starfield's main story.

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Reminds me of how people somehow still don't understand Lost