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I thought this was a hoax the first time I saw this story. But apparently not. The man is becoming a parody of himself.

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[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess concessions are better than nothing. But I have a similar feeling about alienation from Starmer labour. I was, at least in principal, in favour of moderation of policy to get more electoral success. I'm getting a "not like that" illustration of why I was wrong in real time.

[–] tenebrisnox 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that in this period of history we're going to see that. I think the big gains for working people happened first at the start of the 20th Century (universal vote) and 1945 (Welfare State). These things happened around the same times across the West. I tend to think that they were a response to the Russian Revolution in 1917 and the fear of Western countries welcoming the Soviet armies after 1945. Since then we've seen reversals of social gains. Certainly since 1980s neoliberalism economic policies ruthlessly pursued by governments of the Left and Right.