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I never thought I'd see the day when a respectable blue chip company like Boeing is publicly outed as ordering an assassination. They fucked up royally. The timing of it all is too eyebrow raising not to be noticed by the entirety of the airplane-using world. Top down criminal investigation. Now.
I kind of thought corporations aren't allowed to murder people but at this point I don't know anymore.
Murdering people has been a normal part of corporations for a long time, but they generally do it to union organizers in the developing world.
Let's be fair, they do it everywhere. They do it more in the developing world, but it's not exclusive there.
In America it used to be you could just bribe your governor and they'd deploy the national guard to kill striking worker's families like the Ludlow Massacre and the Battle of Blair mountain.
It blows my mind how blatantly these events are not taught to anybody. Never forget.
They're clearly allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
I mean, there have been several huge instances of mass murder by corporations. Go look into the US’ history with strikebreaking and you’ll see just how bad it used to be. At least Boeing is trying to pretend it was a suicide, instead of just blatantly firebombing him in his own home.
I don't think they are allowed. But I think they do it.
too big to fail. /s
Now the corpos who order planes see that boeing is willing to do anything in order to get the job done...
well your first mistake was thinking Boeing was a respectable corporation (that ship sailed in 1997 when they dropped the "engineering first" priority in lieu of "business first")...
your second mistake is thinking any corporation is respectable ;-)
Their third mistake is thinking any corporation will be held accountable
Oh, you got caught doing some shitty business thing and now you're not making as much money. Here is a government bailout to make it up.
Or they got caught doing a shitty business thing fucking people over and get fined a fraction of what it made them.
lol you're right.
In other news, if you search for flights on kayak and exclude Boeing planes, holy crap the tickets are insanely expensive.
Turns out people pay extra money to avoid death, who knew.
next stops: buy Kayak and shut it down; Make it illegal for similar searches to be performed; make it illegal to disclose who makes the aircraft.
Unless citizens make it clear that they won't stand for bullshit, they will get bullshit.
Scary thing nobodies talking about is: if these Boeing-built bad parts are able to slip past inspectors, which we had (naievely?) assumed were given full access top-notch, and neutral, might the standards of other planes build-quality have also dropped?
How safe are the other company's planes?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Boeing is a major part of the military industrial complex. They own the politicians in both parties, the regulators, and the courts. Laws don't apply to them.
If you're the government, you want your military planes to work. It's in their interests to have whistleblowers. (Now there's lots of steps that are problems in realizing that.)
No. If you're the state you want shit to work. If you're part of the government, you just want to get your bribes.
Bribes being one of the steps that can be a problem.
I mean there may simply have been internal reports already, just highly classified to avoid "embarrassing" the nation and not accessible or known to the general public.
"Look, it turns out if you flip this switch on the Fa-18 and forget to turn it off after 1 to 5 minutes tops, your chances of 'uncontrollably inverting and ejecting at high speed straight into the freaking ground' go up tenfold. We've provided the USAF with a 1 hour iPad training about being touchy with the defrost function."
--Boeing, probably
I feel like “risk of door blowing off mid flight” or “25% of oxygen masks don’t work” is something the public is entitled to know about
Didn't say they weren't entitled to know about it, just the reasoning that might've gone through the government's collective heads when not disclosing or looking the other way on Boeing doing an Epstien.
If they can't deliver a product that stays in one piece when not even being shot at, they aren't about to stay a part of that MIC for long.
The MIC has very little to do with making high-quality military equipment and much more to do with kickbacks and local jobs. Boeing and the other prime contractors are massively inefficient and often performing make-work jobs that no one in the military wants (like making more tanks).
EDIT: The posts above and in response to this one both got modded, so I'm gonna edit this one because it looks weird out of context and perhaps wasn't constructive.
Why does this surprise you that a company, a large company, would order an assassination of someone? This doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
At the end of which some low level schmuck will be thrown under the bus and they will be fined a few million dollars grand total for all this shit.