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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Marijuana is absolutely physically addictive as much as people want to say it isnt.

I mean it scientifically isn't though. Physical addictions don't just give you psychological withdrawals, they are physical. Your body becomes dependent on them to maintain homeostasis.

Cold turkeying drugs like opioids and benzos can kill you.

[–] Kirbenstein@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because the withdrawal symptoms aren’t as bad doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I said this before, research is needed. Going off of whats been said over the last 50 years of prohibition seems silly to me. And i for sure use marijuana to keep me in homeostasis. We need to stop saying psychological withdrawal doesnt have roots based in brain chemistry. I think everything we have begun to learn about mental health shows what little we actually know.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

withdrawal symptoms aren’t as bad doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

And just because there are withdrawals, doesn't mean that it's a physical addiction. Some psychological withdrawals are physical in nature, anxiety can increase cortisol output which leads to the withdrawal symptoms people speak of.

This is not the same as a physical dependency, where a person can become dangerously ill if they don't ween off their substances.

And i for sure use marijuana to keep me in homeostasis.

No you don't, you may use cannabis to self medicate for psychological effects, but you aren't doing it to make sure you don't start vomiting and running a fever.

We need to stop saying psychological withdrawal doesnt have roots based in brain chemistry.

No one is saying that..... That's precisely why a psychologicaly addictive is considered psychological. Physical addictions effect more than just brain chemistry.

I think you are just underestimating the span and severity of psychologicaly addictive substances. Just because it is not physically addictive doesn't mean it's not bad, it just less likely that your body forms a physical dependency on it.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's withdrawal but of the four drugs i have been physically addicted to (caffeine, weed, nicotine, and SSRIs) it's the only one I can cold turkey in under a week and feel fine.

[–] Kirbenstein@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed, this isnt a lesser of two evils argument. I absolutely believe weed is easier on the body then most other happy juices we love to use. But misinformation is misinformation, and i think people who want to use weed should be informed of possible side effects. The more we understand about it, the easier it will be to get it legalized.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bro just copy pasted his own response

[–] Tvkan@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

"Marijuana ist a memory loss drug, so maybe they just don't remember."

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

was that bad form on my part?

Nah I just thought it was funny

[–] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Current strains are a lot stronger than what I grew up with. I have no idea if that could make them physically addicting or not, or perhaps physically addicting to a greater number of people or not.

The psychological addiction though is self-evident. It can become an identity or religion or something for people. Like, any time they're doing something fun and/or unsupervised they have to add weed to it.