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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It honestly depends how it goes

If the democratic party keeps going against everything that would create a better world, and constantly just runs as the "less worse" party, then no. I'm not willing to vote for him again. Sometimes you need to lose freedom to see how much it really matters

Trump is a fucking awful choice. And choosing him will cause the downfall of America.

But it's been a very long time since America was the beacon of progress and freedom and progress. Im more worried about how we take care of the planet and deal with the impending climate crisis. This shouldn't be a country thing, it should be a human thing.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes you need to lose freedom to see how much it really matters

This is absurd. The result of the Germans failing to stop Hitler was a war that lead to about 70 million casualties, a genocide, years of oppression of the German people. Oh, but its worth it because it taught the German people that freedom needs to be defended. News flash, a pretty decent portion of population already knew that, and currently, people are forgetting the lesson again.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh this is a hot take. I don't typically hear about "the Germans failing to stop Hitler". Failing implies there is a successful path. Can we institute, in American, what you perceive as the correct course of action the Germans should've taken? (one which still follows democracy without violence I'm hoping)

Also the person above never said it was "worth it", it's a sad truth that you sometimes don't know how much something matters till you lose it? It's literally your last couple of words you've parroted "people are forgetting the lesson again". The lesson...... of how much it matters and you don't want to lose it...

[–] Matumb0@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I just got a message from Putin saying: he really agrees with your view!

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a fucking awful choice. And choosing him will cause the downfall of America.

don't threaten me with a good time, Americas downfall would be a mercy to the rest of the world