I just don't get people who say X-Men wasn't "woke" until recently. It never even tried very hard to hide the metaphors...
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I require an example of someone stating that x-men isn’t woke. I don’t believe anyone could avoid understanding that.
I saw a video of MAGA Republicans playing "Killing in the Name of" by RATM at an event while draped in the American flag.
Never underestimate the media illiteracy of conservatives. They kinda have to be media illiterate to be conservatives.
Ronald Reagan said he was a big fan of "Born In The USA." They don't have to listen to the lyrics to know what they like.
I can see people bopping along to music and ignoring the non-chorus lyrics but x-men, the half century old segregation allegory with enough content to occupy a small library… that is a hard sell. It feels insincere.
They also claim to support MLK
I live in a red state. The depths of sheer ignorance are astounding and cannot be exaggerated.
They like the version of the '60s civil rights movement they constructed in their head. Their conception of old X-Men can fit into that.
Notice that conservatives complaining about "wokeness" always point to superficial attributes. A woman protagonist in a superhero movie, a half second lesbian kiss, or a black actor for a traditionally white character. They don't point to media that has even slightly deeper ties to leftist thought, such as Andor or The Expanse. If they do at all, it'll be for only those superficial attributes. They don't even recognize it for what it is.
My guess is they see "superheroes in tights, with dashes of relatable problems", instead of allegories and people who fight so those who are like them, and those aren't, can coexist.
There's been a lot of... discourse... around the fact that, in the new Disney+ X-Men cartoon, Morph is going to be portrayed as nonbinary.
You can see a bunch of chuds raging about it if you go to YouTube and search for X-Men Woke
Mystique / Raven already transgendered into a bunch of dudes and back into a lady, in the X-Men movies years ago
Yeah, of course, which is why this is all so baffling. Or would be, if anyone still expected the Culture Warriors™ to have a single clue what they're talking about.
Also, in the comics, Mystique has been in a lesbian relationship with Destiny since the 80s, and Chris Claremont even planned at one point to have it revealed that Mystique had shapeshifted into a man and fathered Nightcrawler, with Destiny being his mom. That got nixed by the higher ups, but IIRC, the comics actually went back to that idea and made it canon recently.
Wow I didn't know she could grow a functioning boner.
That's the part of her power set that makes you go "Now hold up, that's a little complicated?"
Sounds like a fun time to me.
If you think about it, if you could change your body at will like Mystique or Morph, the only thing stopping you of having all sorts of fun would be your own biases.
I do wonder how a pregnancy would work, tho. Could be an interesting plot point if getting pregnant limited the power
Since the fetus is still a part of her at that point, can she just reform it at will like the rest of her? Could she spontaneously make a baby that's ready to be born? Disturbing implications...
She also has a wife but that might only be established since krakoa. I haven't read the classics as I wouldn't know where to start.
She and Destiny were definitely an item as far back as I was reading (late 80s). I don't think they had officially tied the knot though.
From what I’ve heard, Mystique is now canonically Sherlock Holmes and met destiny in the late 1800s when she was being a detective in London.
I saw that was a thing now, that Mystique and Destiny are now canonically Sherlock Holmes and Irene Adler, respectively. That's the kind of awesome weird shit that makes me want to get back into comics.
A shape shifter being non binary makes as much sense as water being wet.
Check any X-Men story/article on IGN then read the comments section.