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Is hook-up culture part of individualism because it commodifies other people as just sex objects? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Skipper1402@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

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I am thinking of the mindset of wanting to hook up with as many people as possible not taking into consideration other people ‘s feelings or who might get hurt in by the process, which objectifies other individuals. That is an individualistic thought process, right?

Edit: I meant commodification in the sense of online dating apps, escort services, only fans, porn, prostitution and patriarchy. This trickles to the culture due to base and superstructure, and it is adopted by individualism.

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[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You really, really cannot throw together dating apps and hook-ups with pornography and prostitution. These are not the same thing.

There's something to be said about atomization of society and others have already kind of said it here with regards to the modern hook-up culture via apps. I think there's something to be said about the dehumanization inherent in swiping through a gallery of people's pictures and picking one out to fuck for the weekend like some other object. It resembles strongly the shopping experience so I suppose I can see something to discuss there, it reduces intimacy in a way to just another form of browsing appearances, labels, and marketing of self (like the shopping aisle it's so busy and so full of options one is incentivized not to spend more than a few seconds, a minute at most on any particular offering before moving on to the one beside it) and this situation is created by the lack of societal bonds and interaction outside of work and school. In a way with pornography culture there's perhaps an intersection there towards the attitudes but I don't feel confident enough to talk about it. As to prostitution and pornography, those are of course without a doubt commodification of the female body and form and cannot exist under communism.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

As to prostitution and pornography, those are of course without a doubt commodification of the female body and form and cannot exist under communism.

I file this jointly under:

There will be demand for this for the foreseeable future, so it's a choice between a black market or some option above board.
There are 50 more immediate things to address so there's no need for a struggle session over this right now.

[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

As to prostitution and pornography, those are of course without a doubt commodification of the female body and form and cannot exist under communism.

Not sure I agree with the pornography part, depending on how you're defining pornography. That might be the case for paid pornography but I bet even under communism there will be people wanting to show themselves in sexual acts, and perhaps even more so than now as losing their jobs because people saw them online and things like that wouldn't be a problem, unless it was outright made illegal of course.

Also with extra freedoms under communism more and bigger and more inclusive communities about these things could come to exist, perhaps even involving money but not to "pay for people" but to produce content that people want to produce/consume.