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Is there a downside to Flatpak? (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 months ago by 0485919158191@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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Basically title.

I’m wondering if a package manager like flatpak comes with any drawback or negatives. Since it just works on basically any distro. Why isn’t this just the default? It seems very convenient.

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[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
  • overly verbose way to launch them in terminal
  • can sometimess not even respect your gtk/qt theming
  • sandboxing/permission system can lead to you trying to figure out which directory you need to give access to when you want to save file if it wasn't preconfigured
  • uses its own libraries and not system libraries, want to play the hit new AAA game with steam flatpak? get fucked it requires a mesa commit that was merged 8 hours a go and you're stuck on 23.0.4 and can't use the git release.

Flatpak probably has it's specific uses like trying to use one piece of proprietary software that you don't trust and don't want to give it too much access to your system, or most GUI software clients having an easy way to install Discord on your Steam Deck (no terminal usage, Linux is easy yay), but native packages 99% of the time work better.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

uses its own libraries and not system libraries, want to play the hit new AAA game with steam flatpak? get fucked it requires a mesa commit that was merged 8 hours a go and you're stuck on 23.0.4 and can't use the git release.

Can't you just install a git snapshot of mesa in a flatpak and use that? Then it'd be an upside

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The downside is having to do that manually. Kind of ruins the whole point of it. Flatpaks will remain out-dated until the maintainer has time to push it out. Forever behind.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's the org.freedesktop.Platform.GL{,32}.mesa-git runtime(?) so that seems wrong. What app always needs the latest snapshot mesa version anyway?

[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

According to the example, a hit new AAA title on steam might need it.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

That doesn't mean it constantly requires a mesa git snapshot.

[–] Tzeentch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

You can, infact there's outright a mesa git runtime one can add, i don't imagine too many systems roll so fast as to outpace it https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/available-runtimes.html