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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

it's a shame there aren't more eyes on green and independent runners like Corbyn, but anything will be better than the conservatives at this point.

[–] peter 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no way we would ever make the leap from tory to green, labour to green is barely conceivable either. Would be nice though.

[–] echodot 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The greens will never get in under a first past the post system because they are a single issue party. The best that we can hope for is that they embarrass the incumbent government into adopting some green policies. Kind of how ukip embarrassed the Tories into adopting some right wing extremist policies, although they didn't need a great deal of persuasion in that area.

One of the biggest problems the greens have though is that they're very much about the end results, but they don't seem all that clear on how we are going to get there. No one's going to take them seriously unless they can come up with some sort of concrete plan.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are the greens still against nuclear electricity generation?

[–] echodot 2 points 9 months ago

Yes they still are on that train. That's kind of what I mean they don't have a single clue how to actually transition to NetZero. Obviously we need nuclear for base load but they don't like it for some random reason but they don't seem to be able to offer an alternative.

I think they would prefer it if the power grid just shut down.

[–] thelardboy 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

In my Lab safe seat, my Green vote is nailed on. If there was any chance of a Tory win here, I'd be holding my nose and voting Lab.

[–] echodot 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah my seat is neck and neck, at least it was in the last election, I suspect it probably won't actually be in this election but you can't take the risk. Lib dems are nowhere near here and the Greens are even further behind.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Same. My seat is a guaranteed Labour. I'm voting Green because I want to make them the runner up so they can threaten Labour one day.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I misunderstood and thought you were safe from a recession because of your tenured job in some laboratory

[–] thelardboy 3 points 9 months ago

I fucking wish. Got made redundant pre-Covid and not been in steady work since.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll pull the lever for Greens in local elections, but I'm generally voting strategically for Labs. Hell, I'd even fw a LibDem over a Tory.

[–] echodot 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not really voting for Labour in this election, because honestly they've done bugger all. I am just voting against the Tories.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That's just it. We need a more expressive voting system, like RCV or approval.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I seem to recall having a lot of eyes on Corbyn didn't work out well last time. Maybe the public won't eat up unsubstantiated bullshit about him now the Tories have left the country a mutilated husk?