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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No need to invade, just stop giving them new toys.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could just demand the immediate resignation of Bibi and his government as a prerequisite for a continued alliance, but that would require a spine.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Is that how alliances work? Please tell us more.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Alliances are mutual pacts, and can be broken by either party when the other becomes objectionable or unprofitable. Or just because.

I personally consider "being a genocidal fascist abusing the alliance to cement his rule" a deal breaker that can only be resolved with the removal of the offending party from power.

You don't?

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So your approach to weilding America's strength and good will, in the name of human rights, is to abandon allies over 35,000 deaths, most of which are civilians? Okay that's one approach. Not sure how our other allies will feel about it, whether they might stop working with if we try to dictate how they decide to prosecute a war on their border.

What are you going to say to any emerging powers that are considering whether they want to be part of the western world or if they want to hitch their wagons to Chinese or Russian power? How will you live with yourself when you realize your emotions over 35,000 deaths caused you to end the very alliance that stops tens of millions from dying in an Iranian war and the cascade of failed states that would follow?

"Being a genocidal fascist"? Who specifically are you even talking about? Israel is a democracy. They don't have just one person in charge. Are you talking about Netanyahu? You're going to blow up an alliance and risk tens of millions of lives because you don't like one politician, whose entire party seems likely to be defeated at the ballot box? How about giving it one election before we try severe sanctions and whatever else you are suggesting America should do to overthrow a leader and party that was democratically elected because it won't do what we want?

Seems incredibly ignorant and short sighted, something a kid might suggest.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, we absolutely should "abandon" genocidal fascists - who demand billions of dollars in military aid to make everyone in the Middle East our enemies.

That's called "Not being evil people that deserve bullets to the face."

But, hey, it's a free country, it's your right to be on the side of fascism while patting yourself on the back for the mental maturity of defending the status quo at all costs.

One might even note there's a whole political party for your kind!

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 9 months ago

Yep, they're already struggling as it is. If they had to fight house to house with just rifles they'd stand no chance.