this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2023
278 points (90.4% liked)
Lemmy.world Support
3217 readers
52 users here now
Lemmy.world Support
Welcome to the official Lemmy.world Support community! Post your issues or questions about Lemmy.world here.
This community is for issues related to the Lemmy World instance only. For Lemmy software requests or bug reports, please go to the Lemmy github page.
This community is subject to the rules defined here for lemmy.world.
To open a support ticket
You can also DM https://lemmy.world/u/lwreport or email report@lemmy.world (PGP Supported) if you need to reach our directly to the admin team.
Follow us for server news 🐘
Outages 🔥
https://status.lemmy.world
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Honestly, I feel like u/ruud is gonna see these comments and keep Zuck out of things. He seems like he cares about what's going on up in here.
If they are going to block it, I would have thought they have decided that already, though seems like mastodon's head agreed - how much was he paid, I wonder.
Mastodon's head can't choose who individual instances federate with. I think he's in charge of like, one? How many people in this thread have already shown they have no clue how federation works?
Yes, that is why I'm asking the admins of lemmy.world if they are going to block it.
Also, this is the largest mastrodon server that is likely federating with threads, so not a small deal.
I don't see what people are afraid of. Lemmy.world can do what it wishes, but I honestly don't see where the fear comes in. At the very least just mark it invisible. Let those other users see what other alternatives are out there.
What problem are you trying to fix by blocking them before even seeing what it's like (without using some vague notions)?
Will it even natively federate with this format? Just as Mastodon doesn't default to trying to display posts in its feed and Kbin doesn't by default show Mastodon or PixelFed, etc. You might be worrying over nothing.
Your server federated with Mastodon instances. I'm assuming you aren't inundated with Mastodon posts.
Have you watched how growth-at-all-costs tech companies behave? They are ruthless. Nothing good can come from them joining.
Their joining inti the fediverse is not influenced by a server preemptively defederating a source that isn't even live yet. I don't truly care who defederates who, but forcing them to do so early doesn't make sense. If it's truly as bad as you say, they'll be defederated fairly quickly. I just don't like folks literally causing infighting simply because some admins are fairly level headed.
I haven't seen infighting so much as just active discussions on the merit or lack thereof of joining hands with a known bad actor like Meta.
This entire post was centered around leaving this community and basically implying others should as well.
It's not. It's asking whether Lemmy.World will defederate from Threads. Nothing in that suggests leaving Lemmy.World.
As long as lemmy.world blocks it, it's not an issue - for us anyway, I hope. Though meta are devious - you need to be watchful.
Mastodon is much more centralised than Lemmy though, so it's still a big deal
No, it isn't. What are you talking about? Do you even understand the difference between Lemmy and Lemmy.world at this point? Do you understand what I mean when I tell you I don't use Lemmy?
Mastodon.social is much bigger than the other instances and it's headed by the devs (just like kbin.social). This is different from Lemmy, where the spread is more even and the devs purposely don't want to have the largest instance. Have a good day.
That's not what centralized means, nor does it actually affect anything others mentioned. So, good day to you as well I suppose.
"centralized" and "decentralized" are a spectrum, not absolutes. Mastodon might be decentralized in theory but if everyone uses a single instance then it's centralized in practice. That isn't the case right now, but it's also not entirely not the case, either. Same is true for lemmy
This perspective would also make the conversation surrounding it pointless. The proposed idiosyncrasies you suggest don't change the overall discussion in this thread. It's a non-actionable perspective. It's like saying no one can know anything ever. It's technically philosophically a valid point, but it serves no purpose and doesn't help in most conversations.
"Anyone who disagrees with me has clearly been bribed".
I think it is not-naive to assume that the ridiculously wealthy Meta, which is known to purchase smaller companies, has met with the much smaller mastodon and offered them money. It may be cynical, however it is not-naive.
It's naive to think they'd actually care that much especially since it would hurt them a whole lot more of that info got out. They gain nothing. With the number of level headed people just claiming wait and see is clear that it's a very widespread concept. There's no need to pay anyone. It's simply the principle concept behind the fediverse. It's admins following the actual principle of the fediverse. They'll defederate once there's an actual concrete reason and not a bunch of FUD instead.