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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 558 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Alright you’ve been on a roll lately Swifty, but imma call you out; transponders are public information.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Its a bit more complicated than that.

Traffic cameras are usually publicly accessible. You are also, generally, allowed to take pictures of people when they are in public spaces where there is not an expectation of privacy.

So at what point of this is the line crossed?

  1. Seb in space's car was spotted driving down Main Street at 4:13 pm on Tuesday
  2. Seb in space was next seen on 1st street at 4:15 pm
  3. ...
  4. Seb in space was next seen turning off into the Hairy Palms apartment complex at 9:12 pm on Tuesday
  5. Seb in space was seen leaving the Hairy Palms apartment complex at 06:00 on Wednesday

That is where this gets pretty murky. Because we all more or less acknowledge that parparazzi taking pictures of everyone leaving an airport are assholes (unless it is about figuring out if The Rock is going to come do PR to distract people from the WWE sexual slavery scandal...). But we have no issue with knowing that without even needing to send someone over to see who got off the 1235 LAX->DFW flight.

And while my initial stance is "fuck the super-rich": I am allegedly part of a private chat for "people in tech" to give each other a heads up if we see a CEO getting off a flight. Because if your boss is pretty regularly visiting Facebook HQ and not telling anyone? That is the sign that you need to refresh your CV because you might get layed off after an acquisition/merger. There are definitely business reasons for not making it trivial to track individuals.

So yeah. I am going to side on the stance of "if you need to travel secretly, wear sunglasses like the rest of us". Or, if you are too famous to even risk that, at least use one of the private jet companies rather than owning your own. But I also think this is something that we need to actually consider from a legal and privacy standpoint and it is a lot more complex than that.

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, but that's a discussion about how accessible the info should be. If it's public, it's public, and the public has equal access to it. If it shouldn't be that easy to access, we fix the system, not punish the users. And suing is punishment/aggression, regardless of the outcome. Self defense isn't free.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago

I feel like your example is way more granular than what is going on here. It’s more like ‘so and so has arrived at this city airport now’ and within an hour or two they could be anywhere in a fairly large radius without anyone reporting their location. Also there is the fact that this is ‘punching up’ which is often seen as ok.

I don’t pretend to have an answer here, but it’s hard to feel sorry for celebrities.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am suspicious as to whether that is a "legit" site at all...

But yeah. Even mentioned below. It is REALLY not an insurmountable problem. But apparently people don't understand why people might not want to give step by step instructions for how to do something that, in my opinion, is fundamentally "bad". Can't imagine what would happen if Mythbusters talked about "adding blah" or Burn Notice did the "and other stuff" short hand for "Yo dog, this shit is not something we should explain the details of"

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's a legit site. It's a product being sold by TransUnion which is one of the big credit reporting agencies.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of that info being presented in that way

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t listen to her music, I’d hardly call her my hero.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And transponders transmit. With a significant amount of power in fact.

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Weird, it’s almost like they have to to have any usefulness.

At all.

You can't stop the signal, Mal.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

LOL 6 downvotes as of this comment. Fans are gonna fan I guess.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It was positive even when I commented, I was just surprised at the number of downvotes.