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[–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's so dumb, that of gender being different from sex with the former being changeable and the latter unchanging is the entire premise the transgender philosophy is built on

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Thank you for backing me up, I appreciate it. I also thought how dumb that ban was, since their gender not matching their sex seems to be the main struggle of trans people, at least as far as I can understand it as a cis dude. I argued that trans women are women by gender and by identity but not physically/biologically. Obviously someone did not like that and reported me. Worst part is I contacted reddit dozens of times, asked to remove the ban, or at least tell my how my statement was wrong but they simply would not talk to me. Despite using a different account on a different computer with a different browser and also a VPN, they somehow detected me anyway and kept banning my new accounts too. Well ... fuck reddit, lemmy is better anyway.

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that was a dumb ban. I love trans people, have trans friends, and have been "close" with trans people. They are all begrudgingly aware that their biological "sex" parts can't be changed on a whim, and that even with a sex change surgery, it is still medically impossible to fulfill the opposite roll in reproduction.

I have thought about this at length and it does get messy, though. If we define "male" as someone who can deliver sperm and impregnate a "female", then what about people who can't reproduce? Does someone who can no longer produce sperm cease being male? And if not, aside from our "preconceptions", what then is the actual difference between a biological male that can't reproduce and a transgender male that has had all of the operations and looks male? I don't have the answers, hah