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(OTHER) Why make this community? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by AceTKen@lemmy.ca to c/actual_discussion@lemmy.ca

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First and foremost, let me say that I appreciate you actually engaging in a real discussion on Lemmy!

Why did I make this community? Well, mostly in response to the rest of Lemmy and the way many otherwise interesting discussion threads fall apart into downvoting and groupthink.

I don’t like people making baseless accusations and defend people on all sides when people are wrong about their opposition. I hate it when people think they know what others think and project incorrect (and often evil) bullshit on each other. It’s important to maintain solid reasoning and conclusions, not just one or the other.

I hate people being wilfully wrong because their group fetishizes a certain angle of the truth instead of the boring reality of the situation.

Ideas are important and I don’t feel we can get out of the current shitty slump we’re in with political discourse unless we are able to clearly articulate ourselves and discuss the world we're in.

So let's talk like people. What do you want to talk about?

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Someone disagreeing with you isn't attacking you.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

EXACTLY. That's the point I've been making for decades now. But people won't just simply disagree. They throw in nasty, invective disparaging words and insinuate that you or I must be morons because our views differ from theirs.

When someone calls me names just because I've expressed a view they don't like, you better believe I'm going to rain down on them like a ton of bricks. You can disagree with someone in a civilized manner -- but call me names and you're going damn well live to regret it.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but if someone insults you on c/politics you can just report the comment and we will remove it, and after enough strike ban them. Rather than you going from 1 to 100 and getting yourself banned.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Is that true? I wasn't aware I could report their comment. If so then that's what I will do from this point forward, and see what happens. My whole viewpoint has always been, we should be able to disagree in a CIVIL way here - without the need for name calling.

Trust me if you look at my history, I have always been nice to people initially and then been called horrible names by others JUST for saying something they didn't like. Of course I have no way to know they didn't like it until they come back with horrible insults to show me I've trod on some "sacred" cow of theirs without realizing it.

Thanks - I will take your advice and report such incidents when they happen from now on.

[–] AceTKen@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mentioned it elsewhere, but it seems like over the last 20 years or so the internet has become a lot more intolerant of even discussing how someone could approach an opposing viewpoint. This is how Echo Chambers were built and came about in the first place and I feel it's made a lot of people much more thin-skinned.

I hope this community will fix all that at least in this one tiny corner.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well I hope it will also. People have become much more thin skinned and reactionary, as if posting an opposing viewpoint is somehow a personal threat to them when really it isn't. If they disagree with a posting, they can always just say, "well I disagree, and here's why..." It doesn't need to be a slapfest.