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Here's how Ukraine was being reported by the West before the war.

Today, increasing reports of far-right violence, ultranationalism, and erosion of basic freedoms are giving the lie to the West’s initial euphoria. There are neo-Nazi pogroms against the Roma, rampant attacks on feminists and LGBT groups, book bans, and state-sponsored glorification of Nazi collaborators.

These stories of Ukraine’s dark nationalism aren’t coming out of Moscow; they’re being filed by Western media, including US-funded Radio Free Europe (RFE); Jewish organizations such as the World Jewish Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center; and watchdogs like Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and Freedom House, which issued a joint report warning that Kiev is losing the monopoly on the use of force in the country as far-right gangs operate with impunity.

Five years after Maidan, the beacon of democracy is looking more like a torchlight march. A neo-Nazi battalion in the heart of Europe

If you whitewash NAZI POGROMS just because you want to beat Russia, fuck you. Siding with far-right fascists to defeat far-right fascists doesn't make you the good guy. There is no lesser of two evils here.

If you dismiss any criticism of Ukraine as Russian propaganda, you might want to ask why the rest of the world, including the West, was concerned about Nazism in the area and then suddenly changed their tune only after the war started.

We should be getting both sides into peace negotiations, not prolonging the bloodshed and providing Nazis with illegal cluster bombs

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HaTiNg NaZIs MaKeS U tHe ReAl NaZi

I don't support Russian or Ukraine Nazis. Eat my ass please!

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes the country with a Jewish president is totally nazi sure nice logic there 🙄 👍 😉 👏

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And I take it there is zero racism in America after Obama became president?

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So i suppose there's zero racism in Russia

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What has that got to do with this argument?

You said that it's not possible for a country to have Nazi elements if it had a Jewish president. I pointed out that this is an illogical statement, as the USA still had plenty of anti black racism, even at the institutional level, while having a black president. So it's definitely possible for a country to have Nazi elements and a Jewish president, just as it is possible for a country to have a black president and anti black racist elements in it's social fabric.

There is likely lots of racism in modern day Russia, but I don't see what that has to do with your argument.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago

So i suppose there's zero racism in Russia

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

"How can you say America is racist, they had a black president!"

[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wouldn't know a Nazis if they were goose stepping right in front of you. Nazis obviously do not care for Jewish people but their real enemy is and has always been the left. Otto Skorzeni litterally worked on behalf of the Israeli government. Walther Rauff, the inventor of "gas vans" also worked for Israel. About a dozen Nazis war criminals worked for Israel, and both the Nazis and the Israeli government knew this. Contemporary Nazis fucking love Israel because they've created a white ethnostate and admire their ability to have done so.

So to answer your question can Ukraine have a Nazi problem with a Jewish head of state? Absolutely, Nazis have no problem working with Jewish people when it serves their interests and it has served their interest to work with Zelensky because people such as yourself who are incapable of seeing through this thin veil guzzle the propaganda willingly and supported giving them a fuck ton of weapons to carry out pogroms on Roma and Russians.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now your just babbling incoherent nonsense moral equivalence fallacy

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[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

You don't know what words mean and it makes it very difficult to educate you. Watch this videocountdown

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The “explicitly leftist” midwest.social sure aren’t sending their best