Afaik, the first Antifa were a coalition of left wing groups in Italy fighting fascists in the 1920s. They didn’t necessarily use the term but they were the first active anti-fascists so that counts in my book 🤷

As a side note, they were left to fight both the fascists and the royalists alone, since the Italian Liberals refused to get involved until it was clear who would win and then joined the fascists.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that is the lesson, liberals do not effectively fight against fascism because they are too desiring of orderly and calm and polite politics and too much powered by economic interests (bourgeois). So we actually rely on antifa as a social force. Neither the state nor the liberals will fight against it. At least that is my limited understanding of it, since this is never discussed about in mainstream media.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

liberals do not effectively fight against fascism because they are too desiring of orderly and calm and polite politics and too much powered by economic interests

Absolutely 100% correct.

So we actually rely on antifa as a social force.

We need to, yes.

Neither the state nor the liberals will fight against it.

Right you are again!

At least that is my limited understanding of it, since this is never discussed about in mainstream media.

Seems to me you understand it perfectly but yeah, the mainstream media is for-profit and owned by billionaires who are often friends with or at least have common interests with the fascists, so they have very logical, if despicable, reasons to be hands-off about it.