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At work we somehow landed on the topic of how many holes a human has, which then evolved into a heated discussion on the classic question of how many holes does a straw have.

I think it's two, but some people are convinced that it's one, which I just don't understand. What are your thoughts?

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't even understand the thinking that produces 2.

[–] curiousaur@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What about zero? If you start with a flat sheet of paper, it has zero holes, loop it around on itself, does that creat a hole?

It's just a flat plane with no holes curved around on itself.

[–] blazerboy65@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

By looping it on itself you've created a hole.

[–] Ferris@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Ok how many holes does a Mobius strip have?

[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, while I agree with the sentiment, I can understand the 2 holes side of the argument.

If you want to break it all down and super simplify it, you could argue that your digestive tract is a straw, so why do you differentiate between the start hole and the end hole?

I will not take that position though, because as I said, it’s over simplified.

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would argue that because a human is more complex than a straw, we need to differentiate between the holes we have.

A straw is simple. One straight hole all the way through. Maybe it has lots of curves but the ends of the straw are the same.

For a human, we have lots of curves to our "straw" but diffrent openings on each end.

[–] TrontheTechie@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, we also have multiple sphincters, so there are many ‘holes’ in our straw, hence why I said in as many words as possible that I don’t believe that, and am not arguing it, but that I can understand the “supersimplified” understanding of things that can lead to that understanding using the human body as the common point that the ‘common sense’ 2 hole argument could originate from, whereas the person I was replying to said they couldn’t understand that kind of reasoning.