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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 163 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Haley might be the smartest person in the GOP room right now. She got herself a gig in the Trump administration, but one that kept her in NYC and away from most of the crazies in the Trump Orbit. She had to promote Trump's foreign policy, of course, but had wide latitude in terms of how to do it. She notably had a hard line against Russia while we know Trump's history with Putin.

She was capable of doing her job without stepping in anything foul. And she got some one-on-one time with other high-level diplomats. If there is any dirt on Trump and his foreign business dealings, she has it.

Haley might make a horrible President, but she is not an election denier and she is not in Putin's pocket, so she already has a few advantages over most of the GOPniks these days.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If I had to wager, her plan may be to stay in to the end despite losing every primary, just in case something goes south for Trump legally. Trouble is, he's going to savage her politically and many of his supporters will never vote for her

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Shes got the Koch billion dollar donation network behind her. I think her plan is to make as much of their money as possible, which they are glad to give to have a possible president directly in their pocket.

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It would be interesting to see Kamala Harris vs. Nikki Haley in a future election -- Two Indian-American woman vying for the US presidency.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

interesting in the same way putting tobasco sauce in your eyes is interesting

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

No coronations pls. Let's have some actual primaries with policy. On both sides.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not American, so honestly I'd prefer her to be the candidate even if she does beat Biden.

Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win, but a Haley presidency is arguably preferable to even the risk of a second Trump presidency.

If he's re-elected and undermines NATO, the risk of Russia making a mistake in the baltics, and things getting out of control are very very real. Trump II is quite simply an existential threat at this point.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Obviously Biden vs. Trump is more likely to result in a Biden win

The sad thing is that we're not sure. Trump voters don't vote "rationally", it's a cult like thing that was cultivated during Biden's term. They are taught to refute all facts and go by gut feeling instead.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Don't think it started then. Fox News, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, hell Father Charles Coughlin and the America First Committee. Suspect it's partly related to that Asimov quote:

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I suspect Trump v Biden would be a tighter race than expected. Trump supporters enthusiasticly show up to vote. The majority of Americans may prefer Biden over trump but will they make the effort to vote for a man they aren't enthusiastic about?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

My reasoning is that no one is particularly enthusiastic about Biden.

People will however turn up to vote against Trump.

Will people turn up to vote against Haley in as large numbers? I have my doubts.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Haley has a much stronger chance of winning the presidency than Trump imo. She could win the independent vote, and Democrat voters may not turn out as much if she's the alternative.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

She also wants to ban Gender Affirming Care in all 50 states