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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I doubt a coalition of the two (which Starmer would undoubtedly agree to) wouldn't be any better unfortunately..

The fact is the system isn't broken, it's working exactly as intended. Which is why we need to abolish it entirely. Hanging hopes on electoral politics is continuing to play the same rigged game hoping those in charge will change the rules.. They aren't going to.

[–] Sarahw@mastodon.green 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

@DessertStorms @GreyShuck @Fudoshin @Zagorath
You're right, but without a full-scale revolution how do we get there?

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

By accepting that a revolution is necessary. There is no fixing ("reforming") capitalism. Or a monarchy. Or a parliament that consists of an entire house of unelected "gentry". The system was never meant to serve us and it never will.

[–] Sarahw@mastodon.green 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

The thing to remember is that as scary and overwhelming as a revolution can seem, it isn't just on the front lines, it requires a lot more than just a violent uprising, it requires a base to fall back on as well as significantly more people working behind the scenes than are on the front lines.

Building up communities that care about and for each other, spreading information and solidarity, building dual powers (communal services to replace the failing/for profit ones we're made to rely on, from food banks to money banks to childcare to healthcare), spreading propaganda and so on, all are vital and need to be happening before any hypothetical storming of any institution could even happen.

We can do it.

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