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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I really think you’re underestimating the advantages of name recognition and incumbency.

if Biden were to support and go to bat for any other candidate his name recognition and incumbency could be made to work for them.

That he doesn't do that... is a matter of his own ego.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if Biden were to support and go to bat for any other candidate his name recognition and incumbency could be made to work for them.

Incumbency and name recognition don't work like that, as a great many outgoing politicians who endorse and campaign for their picked protégé find out.

That he doesn’t do that… is a matter of his own ego.

Influenced by his ego, sure, but not simply a matter of ego. I would have loved for Biden to step down as a one-term president, but I also understand that there is a matter of political calculation in this.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they can’t solve the problem in the last seven years, what makes you think they’ll solve it in the next five?

This is a bed of the DNC’s own making and just further evidence that they’re too out of touch to actually effectively govern.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is that relevant to the argument we were having? We were discussing Biden's electability and whether incumbency and name recognition are linked to his running for president, not whether the DNC can govern, or what problem(?) wasn't solved in the past 7 years.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the problem of not having groomed new talent.

They haven't had new talent in more than 7 years. that's why they went with the "compromise" candidate, while promising to groom that talent so that it won't happen again.

yet another of Biden's broken campaign promises. like "restricting superpacks" and bringing "transparency if campaign financing"... because he really needs those AIPAC donations, right? and speaking of AIPAC donations, what about that promise to end the wars in the middle east? Dropping bombs on Houthi's because you gotta back up the genocidial maniac (see superpac funding).

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the problem of not having groomed new talent.

Again, that's not what we were discussing.

Dropping bombs on Houthi’s because you gotta back up the genocidial maniac (see superpac funding).

Dropping bombs on Houthis because they're attacking civilian ships in one of the most used commercial routes in the world.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dropping bombs on Houthis because they're attacking civilian ships in one of the most used commercial routes in the world.

Because his best friend is going all genocidal. Biden is actively escalating tensions with a slapped on veneer of legitimacy

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And do you think if the US wasn't in support of Israel, the Houthis would just... what, stop?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think everyone who has the power to stop the madness wants this war.

Hamas and the Houthis included. Though they’re bottom feeders being used by Iran and maybe Russia in a proxy war. Israel and US are included in that. Unless you think Israelis would be so openly brazen if the US wasn’t simping so hard?

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

I honestly think the Israelis would be just as brazen. Which is why it's all the more important that we withdraw aid. There's no positive influence we can wield in this, no heroic moment where the US saves the day. We need to just... stop. Rejoin the rest of the international community and try to minimize the damage of the genocide as a collective.