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Duolingo is very much on the Enshittification path, seems like they fired a number of translators and have the rest just proofreading AI.

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[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Enshitification"...
Yes I seem to remember how enshitified everything became after the firing of weavers do to the invention of the Loom.
The fuck you think was gonna happen?
Seriously all this whinging online about AI is getting ridiculous.
Get a fucking hobby.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A loom is a precision machine. You know exactly what you're going to get when you use one. It's output was identical to manual work, only a lot more efficient and less error prone.

There is no "AI". What we have is LLMs, which are probabilistic generators. It's anybody's guess what you're going to get when you use a LLM and they're more likely to introduce mistakes rather than eliminate them.

The comparison to looms is incorrect. LLMs can be useful but I'm a completely different way. They shine when used to augment the work of a human expert but they can't be trusted to perform alone.

So yeah, right now attempting to use a LLM exclusively leads to a drop in quality.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

"They shine when used to augment the work of a human expert but they can't be trusted to perform...".

I'm sure someone wrote the same about the first looms.

[–] gaael@beehaw.org 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In a capitalistic world where your right to stay alive is determined by the money you make, replacing himan jobs by machine ones is a real problem.

If what was happening was "ok so the machines are gonna do that so you're gonna have a lot more free time but you still get your wages", I for one would be happy.

But what's happening is more along the lines of "well I hope you didn't just get a mortgage because here's the door hahaha don't be sad think lf the extra money the shareholders are going to make" and it's a real problem.

Just because it's logical that shitty bosses take shitty decisions which impact negatively other person's lives doesn't mean we can't be upset and vocal about it.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then y'all Luddites can make a new luddite sub and post your complaints over there.
This is a technology sub.
In any world, you just can't stop progress, so complaints will be filed under "G", for garbage.
And the world will keep on spinning.

[–] TheRtRevKaiser@beehaw.org 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago

You make a good point, like how when CGI first came out and everyone had to have it in their movies. Some good movies were made laughable or absolutely worse when practical effects could have done the job.