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Can we not? Can parents just take care of their kids like they have for thousands of years instead of futility trying to babyproof the internet for a minority of people? Jesus.
Especially since parenting is the only thing that's going to actually work. Do you think kids won't figure out a VPN? If they heard enough to type "pornhub", they'll hear about the one extra step.
And there are worse things on the Internet than porn. Some likely on Roblox.
You're just going to have to parent your kid with or without this nanny state blocking scheme.
It's like mandating all cars need to have an ignition interlock because some people drive drunk.
or a real example that most newer cars have a "check rear seat for occupant" alert because some people forget their babies in the backseat and they die...
The difference is that the people involved there are adults and there is no equivalent to the parent responsible for their behaviour so a technical solution makes more sense there.
That was the opinion of the Supreme Court nearly 20 years ago in Ashcroft vs. ACLU, but here we are.
Yeah fuck the state. Only overprotective, power hungry loosers work there anyways.
So there are laws that people agree with that say people under 18 cannot buy/see porn at the store. What makes this any different
Basically PH and other xxx sites need you to verify your identity by uploading your ID. It's what should be unconstitutional and a violation of privacy.
Probably the bigger issue is the centralization of the internet
If we would have some more decentralized way of consuming content, then it would be harder to censor or control it
The internet nowadays is essentially just google, facebook, and pornhub
So applying a rule you can just target one company which will comply anyway because this is communism
I believe the responsibility should be on the parents to keep their children from viewing porn before they're 18. Not the government. I also believe there should be at least some control over what minors have access to. Will it ever be 100%? Nope. All we can do is the best we can do
And this one too of course
What i was just trying to say was about governments trying to put restrictions in the name of kids, anti-terrorism, etc
The same way they can't "protect" people from torrenting sites, here they are trying to protect kids from nsfw
Of course parents need to educate their kids themselves, tell them what good and bad, and be in contact with their kids
Or at least parents can set up parent mode on kids devices, or home network dns filtering
Sacrificing privacy of millions in the name of minority which will find their way anyway is ridiculous
This is a world for children, a world that adults have to keep alive.
This is a world for everyone in it. We shouldn’t actively make it hostile to children, but we also shouldn’t be prioritizing forcing every aspect of it to fit their needs.
Our need to keep it alive isn’t just for children, it’s for everyone, which is also completely unrelated to censorship of sexual content
Okay, so lets be certain that kids do not have a direct connection with every intelligence agency, mafia and terrorist organization in the world right in their pocket, just as they did not for thousands of years. Now, to be clear I really don't like the approach they've chosen here (I think we need to go much deeper into the fundamental design of the Internet), but I would hope it's not a controversial statement to assert that our society has taken a very sharp turn for the worse ever since the Internet became ubiquitous in children's development, and I think that really ought to prompt discussion about how it's being used.
In other words parents need to be parents and take care of their kids, glad you agree with the OP.
Not sure why you're taking a tone which suggests you think I don't agree with you.
Controversially, I think the Internet has made society better. We're still in the growing years of the age of information, so plenty of challenges to overcome for sure, but it largely has made for a more informed society and really empowered the average person despite the resurgence of authoritarianism.