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[–] snooggums@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

~~So you are in favor of people taking the off ramp instead of reaching out for any kind of support because someone else might have it worse.~~

Edit: Maybe I misread what you are telling them to push through, but it really sounds like you are minimizing their concerns with the second sentence.

[–] trashacct@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 11 months ago

I think he’s arguing in favor of therapy, not against it.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How tf did you get that out of a comment about going to therapy and getting professional help?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It can be worth it to push through. However, often, what is a huge issue to you, is far smaller to others. Once you start breaking it down, with someone who knows what they are doing, the problem ends up a lot smaller than it seemed.

This sounds a lot like "it is what it is" by recommending pushing through and then minimizing concerns. Why would they be pushing through to go to therapy just to have their concerns minimized?

Maybe I misread it.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the key phrase there is with someone who knows what they're doing, ie a therapist. A lot of things people are dealing with feel insurmountable without someone who understands mental health helping you to break it down and figure out what you can change (or not). That's an oversimplification obviously, but if it was simple nobody would need therapy.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No worries, sorry if it came off like I was jumping down your throat.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

It's all good, we were just focusing on different parts.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You've completely misunderstood my point.

Going to therapy is hard, particularly for men. However it's worth putting the effort in to go.

Often the problems you are facing look huge and insurmountable. However, when you actually start to truly attack them, they are a paper tiger. Often all you actually need to do is change you mindset and perspective, and they crumble. A mental health professional can often guide you through this process. It's the difference between being trapped in a trap laden maze alone Vs with company and a detailed map. You still need to walk the path, but there are far fewer dead ends, and the support you need to do it.

I was diagnosed with ADHD (and ASD) several years ago. The treatment helped massively. The changes I've made were often tiny. However, by changing a few points early in my thought processes, the changes rippled outwards. What were massive, looming problems, dissolved like fog. The root problems were obvious to a professional, and are now far more obvious to me. On my own, I couldn't recognise them however. Once I could see them, I could hit the bullseye, and the rest of the dominoes well like a house of cards, checkmate.