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As a Finn I say this is fine. Every military resource that is tied down and not raping and destroying Ukraine is net positive.

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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just feel hopeless tbh. It feels like diplomacy failed or was the wrong tool to begin with. You can't argue with someone when their point is, "I want your land and you dead." Every Compromise seems to be a loss at this situation. War is never good. But is not going to War even worse? I just don't know anymore.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm in an even worse mental state over this, I see war with the violators as a clear logical conclusion with great benefit for future generations, but my state is going to sit on their asses and do nothing.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I appreciate a careful consideration of going to War but now it seems to set a dangerous precedent. And no one really know what will happen if Russia attacks, let's say Poland or one of the Baltic states. Is NATO really ready for nuclear War? Or will they just shy away because it's too risky? Maybe I'm just pessimistic about the whole thing but how could you be not?

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

NATO will retaliate with nuclear weapons if it detects that nuclear weapons have been launched by the enemy. So the response would be conventional.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

Mutually Assured Destruction has been around for so long that nobody can possibly win in Nuclear War. In fact, Ukraine is a nation with Nuclear capacity, since they obtained 1,700+ Soviet Era nuclear weapons upon their independence in 1991. If Russia was going to pull the Nuclear War card they would have done so a long ass time ago.

If Russia Attacks a much stronger nation than Ukraine like Finland, then we know exactly what will happen. The will be absolutely decimated in land and population to say the least. Modern Russia was always a paper tiger but it has become even weaker with its failed invasion.