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As a Finn I say this is fine. Every military resource that is tied down and not raping and destroying Ukraine is net positive.

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[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 144 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Having to constantly communicate in abusive opposite-world ideas must be tiring. The notion that NATO is out to invade Russia or something is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 107 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For real... like Mr. Putin sir, we don't want Russia. In fact, I must insist that you keep it

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago

I hope some other Russian usurps his dementia ridden ass, 24 years is enough.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I've heard arguments from sarcasmitron on YouTube that Putin actually believes his own lies. Putin is terrified that the CIA actually caused color revolutions in the 2000's and 2010's, and after the pro-constitution/anti-election-fraud protests in Russia in 2011, he's been fighting against "the shadowy hand of the gay nazi west" ever since.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems like it would happen naturally after a while. He speaks basically exactly like US Republicans and I think a lot of them actually believe their insane BS.

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising that he literally works Republicans like sock puppets

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He tells them what to say where it concerns Russia, but they naturally have the same sort of lying, victim blaming, playing a victim and opposite-world tendencies.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Because they’re all rich, white, Christians. That group hates progress around the world and says the same things globally.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 11 months ago

I find that less believable than the usual dictator playbook that uses foreign scapegoats to create a diversion from internal issues and justify authoritarianism.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You have to be worth something to be invaded.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Well true but we could always just get more from overthrowing some middle eastern government. Hey remember when Syria wasn't hell on earth? Take that Syria, bet you will let John Kerry have his pipeline next time.

[–] Hasuris@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's simple. Us vs them. Not complicated like the 3D-chess he used to play in world politics.

[–] 520@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

More specifically, it's not for us. It's for the people in Russia (who have no opposing viewpoints to hear) and the... special kind of individuals down at Lemmygrad (I don't have any sort of excuse for them)

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

(I don't have any sort of excuse for them)

you've gotta remember, they're just simple shitposters, the common clay of the internet...

you know... morons.

[–] 520@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

I'd love to be charitable to them but by god they make it hard

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

It's simple: they're idiots.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It's like when my kid wants me to talk like DC Bizarro. It's mentally exhausting.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's interesting how this might become a self-fulfilling prophecy if Russia attacks Finland

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That’s basically why Putin has been whining about this. He wants to be able to invade neighboring countries without having to deal with the US, EU and NATO.