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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 61 points 11 months ago (4 children)

the court is openly, blatantly corrupt. I see no reason that should stop for this case in particular. being said, I also see no reason they would rule in favor of trump. he made a mistake that not many power brokers survive: he's depending on favors he's done for the justices in the past in getting them nominated rather than on what he can do for them in the future, and he's essentially said out loud that he's gonna consolidate all power including theirs in the office of PotUS if elected again. They'll let him coup us, but I don't think they'll let him coup them and I highly doubt they'll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt they'll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

I'm imagining a scenario where they do that and then Biden immediately orders drive strikes on the Republican justices, because why the hell not?

[–] kWazt@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

One-way tickets to Guantanamo for everyone!

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt they’ll declare the president completely above the law while the sitting president is a democrat.

That wouldn't stop them because they know that good is dumb.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't stop them then, but the question remains: when will then be now?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I honestly don't think the more recent "conservative" additions save gorsich actually would care if he did. They'd ride off rich into the sunset as "prestigious" SCOTUS members.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if they were gonna retire rich on billionaire donor money they would have already done it. look at Corrupt Clarence: as long as he's sitting on the bench he can count on thousand dollar/day vacations and he knows that. As soon as he has nothing to offer his billionaire owners they'll pull up stakes and move on the bribing the next justice.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The way current day ~~bribery~~ political connections work is that you work on someone's behalf and then when you're done working in government you get a position as a board member, director position, whatever, from the people you helped profit so they can give you a gigantic salary as compensation for your favors for them without the government being able to do anything about it. I don't think any politician stays in the game for the free trips.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

with scotus it seems like they don't ever bother with the veil of delayed rewards anymore. someone gives a justice a pile of money, that justice rules in their favor, and as long as neither of them says "hey, that pile of money is definitely to buy rulings and not as a gift freely given to someone who just happens to have the final say in the law of the land" then no one can 'prove' bribery. the fact is at this point they're mocking us openly.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

sitting president is a democrat

That would matter if the sitting president had some conviction beyond the status quo. He doesn't, and if they declare Trump is above the law, Biden will staunchly refuse to take advantage of that power...because, reasons.

The D's inaction is what got us here. I don't expect that to change in the next 12 months.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

there's an inherent conflict in democrats where they want to be politicians while appearing to be above politics and what it ends up meaning is abandoning any position that's challenged by the opposition as "political", "divisive" or "agenda-driven". they're rich, coddled cowards.

with that being said, I feel like in most cases Rs are politically adroit enough to pull the ladder up behind them even when they don't think Ds will bother trying to climb it.